Oh, sweet merciful fire, two notes: (1) Even Latham & Watkins, ya'll. (2) The lawyer defending an AI company for using stolen IP to train their AI/LLM used the company's AI/LLM to cite check her brief, which hallucinated results. fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldoc... - ThreadSky

gabrielmalor.bsky.social • 14 days ago

Oh, sweet merciful fire, two notes:

(1) Even Latham & Watkins, ya'll.

(2) The lawyer defending an AI company for using stolen IP to train their AI/LLM used the company's AI/LLM to cite check her brief, which hallucinated results.

https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/lbvgwxkmovq/ANTHROPIC%20COPYRIGHT%20LAWSUIT%20dukanovic.pdf

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smmarotta.bsky.social•14 days ago

This isn't as bad as the vast majority of these things, but might as well just try to do your own cites or ask a paralegal than fire up the AI.

charlottegarden.bsky.social•14 days ago

Or even non-AI tech. Zotero or another reference manager will spit you out a (roughly correct) citation in bluebook form, without hallucinations...

nonfinality.com•14 days ago

Seriously mangling a citation to something real is far different from making up stuff supposedly at a fake citation. Embarrassing but not devastating.

questauthority.bsky.social•13 days ago

Yeah, but also IIRC this is a lawyer representing AI in a case in which the alleged social benefits of AI may be at issue.

gabrielmalor.bsky.social•14 days ago

I can't. I just cannot.

kenwhite.bsky.social•14 days ago

How much do they bill for Claude.AI? Because you know Latham ain’t eating that cost.

questauthority.bsky.social•13 days ago

I would wonder why the rate at which lawyers are getting sanctioned for AI misuse seems to be rising if I didn't know my profession so well.

gabrielmalor.bsky.social•13 days ago

I should ask my less-online colleagues if this stuff has really penetrated. I vaguely remember an email from upstairs last year about not using AI, but I don't know if anyone took it seriously or are aware of the dangers.

kenwhite.bsky.social•13 days ago

Every time there is a sanctions order I send it to the whole firm and threaten them.

debgoldendc.bsky.social•13 days ago

I have seen listserv posts from from less online colleagues, and the masses have really no idea what these products are and what they do or don't do.

It's like if you asked me for advice on fishing. I vaguely know there might be choices and if you do it wrong you can put out an eye. Looks cool tho

davewithturbos.bsky.social•13 days ago

-tangent- Listserv....don't hear that term every day...

questauthority.bsky.social•13 days ago

We got an all-attorneys email on the subject Monday.

nonfinality.com•14 days ago

They get to bill for:
1) the AI
2) attorney time to use the AI
3) paralegal time to check the cites
4) attorney time to file the apology motion
5) other things that I’m surely missing.

Win. Win. Win. Win. Win.

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