📢 If you’re a NSFW content creator or consumer living in the US, please consider signing this petition. Restrictions from payment processors like Stripe and PayPal have been damaging for many creators on Gumroad. Please help if you can! action.aclu.org/petition/mas... - ThreadSky | a Reddit-style client for Bluesky

snares.bsky.social • 433 days ago

📢 If you’re a NSFW content creator or consumer living in the US, please consider signing this petition. Restrictions from payment processors like Stripe and PayPal have been damaging for many creators on Gumroad. Please help if you can!

https://action.aclu.org/petition/mastercard-sex-work-work-end-your-unjust-policy

Comments

illiztration.bsky.social•433 days ago

This is not me saying it doesn’t, but these kinds of petitions come under scrutiny so need to be as accurate as possible; how does this change of service impact black trans women more than any other sex worker? You’re going to want to be able to answer this should those opposed to this petition ask.

mexships.bsky.social•429 days ago

PayPal isn't available in my country it's crazy

sorien.bsky.social•433 days ago

Signed and reposted.

bfltoons.bsky.social•349 days ago

What Sorien said!

dustyserg.bsky.social•433 days ago

It’s great that people are speaking up against this but why does it effect black trans women specifically?

coyoteden.bsky.social•433 days ago

Are we talking RL porn or art?

There is nothing in the Stripe/PayPal terms that prohibit art. Only sex work.

By all means, petition the payment processors over sex work, but Gumroad, Patreon, etc.. are misusing those rules as an excuse to ban permitted NSFW.

am-pm.bsky.social•433 days ago

Both Stripe and Paypal forbid NSFW art.

Stripe
"Pornography and other mature audience content (including literature, imagery and other media) depicting nudity or explicit sexual acts"
https://stripe.com/legal/restricted-businesses#prohibited-businesses

Paypal
"certain sexually oriented materials or services"
https://www.paypal.com/us/legalhub/acceptableuse-full

coyoteden.bsky.social•433 days ago

It seems Stripe might, tho PayHip and other seem to think it only applies to real photos/videos.

PayPal prohibiting “certain” adult/sexual material is far too vague. It seems they want to reserve the right to prohibit some NSFW without making clear rules.

am-pm.bsky.social•433 days ago

That means that it's only a matter of time before PayHip and others are forced to ban NSFW art too.

And for PayPal, that vagueness is exactly the problem: if the way they enforce their rules means that NSFW art gets your account shut down, then functionally it means that they prohibit NSFW art.

snares.bsky.social•432 days ago

That’s my concern you see, even alternative platforms like PH or https://itch.io use PP and St**pe. We can hop from one platform to another, but it’s always a matter of time since the whole game is a monopoly under these processors. It’s very frustrating.

lexgoyle.bsky.social•431 days ago

It's in large part because back in 2018 their liability increased under new laws passed at the time regarding sex trafficking and child sexual abuse material. Since art is now being put in the same domain as RL porn that material is also becoming banned by these payment processors.

coyoteden.bsky.social•432 days ago

This was one of the problems cryptocurrency was supposed to solve.

But it didn’t, because whenever you have a currency not subject to any regulation, criminals will move in hard and fast.

Won’t even get into how proof of work coins like BTC and ETH were ripe for it from the start.

lexgoyle.bsky.social•431 days ago

It's vague for that reason so they have a wide berth to work with. It's why it's well known when you commission an artist you wait for them to invoice you OR you just do not ever in the note being sent with payment mention it's for lewd art. Artists have been banned for that.

rinzy.art•433 days ago

I'm not sure about Stripe, but PayPal has historically been really draconic with NSFW art, freezing and banning accounts as soon as they find out it was used for that.

kitsuneg.bsky.social•432 days ago

I live in Canada, but I'll repost for any Murican's that follow me