A dev I talked to said his favorite tool for development recently is called: (I was expecting some AI IDE) (Drumroll… it wasn’t) Tuple! It’s a lair programming tool that allows “taking over” the other person’s screen/IDE. Apparently his whole team uses it daily & love it - ThreadSky

gergely.pragmaticengineer.com • 22 days ago

A dev I talked to said his favorite tool for development recently is called:

(I was expecting some AI IDE)

(Drumroll… it wasn’t)

Tuple!

It’s a lair programming tool that allows “taking over” the other person’s screen/IDE. Apparently his whole team uses it daily & love it

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aaronw.dev•22 days ago

#TodayILearned about Tuple. I tried using something like this some years back, but it wasn't up to par yet.

Also: lair programming > pair programming > vibe coding 😀

aaronw.dev•22 days ago

(I keep forgetting we don't get custom GIFs)
https://youtu.be/SW0Q0IQydAg?si=22K5vAOwlMd-iHZO

aaronw.dev•22 days ago

CoScreen was the one I tried https://www.coscreen.co

nwp.bsky.social•22 days ago

Any good?

aaronw.dev•22 days ago

I really liked what they were doing at the time but it wasn't quite polished enough back then.

nwp.bsky.social•22 days ago

Lair programming... shall we define it as a group of programmers who work in constantly changing pairs/groups?

nwp.bsky.social•22 days ago

But all within the same lair...

nwp.bsky.social•22 days ago

Or could it just be programming while working from home i.e. in your individual lair?

phen.dev•22 days ago

I came here to make this joke, glad to see I was preempted 🫡

jauntywk.bsky.social•22 days ago

Enjoyed a Software Sessions podcast on how Tuple is/was built with webrtc just yesterday! Hadn't realized how old this episode was (2020) but quite enjoyable!
https://www.softwaresessions.com/episodes/creating-tuple-using-webrtc-with-spencer-dixon/

jauntywk.bsky.social•22 days ago

So so so a fan of multiplayer software.

victor.hogemann.com•22 days ago

Most JetBrains IDEs allow you to do something like this, I think.

eduardoyanez.es•22 days ago

Yep, with “code with me”

william-oconnell.bsky.social•22 days ago

Is it better than the JetBrains built-in "code with me" feature?

madamjumbo.bsky.social•22 days ago

Probably not, Tuple is essentially Zoom screen sharing + remote control but slightly better.

changogoat.boats•22 days ago

unfortunate that they stopped linux support..

bitmaybewise.com•21 days ago

Tuple is great! I've used it in the past. It is as good as the pair programming culture at the company, though. But it indeed facilitates cooperation.

jimbobbennett.dev•22 days ago

How does it compare with VS Code live share?

mroderick.bsky.social•22 days ago

I’ve used Tupperware for a few years for my open source work (yay free license for open source maintainers). It is miles better than zoom, and doesn’t lock you into doing everything in an IDE. I’ll be introducing it to my teams at work soon

mroderick.bsky.social•22 days ago

Tupperware! Thank you Autocorrect!

vgaltes.com•22 days ago

We use it everyday at Cooltra and Tech93.

alexfdz.bsky.social•21 days ago

For almost 4 years!

(c'mon @tuple.app, send some shirts)

nwp.bsky.social•21 days ago

Love to see Tuple web site has picked up on this...

nwp.bsky.social•21 days ago

(the "lair" bit)

khagolnomy.space•22 days ago

Tuple’s been under the radar for long.. looks like they’re gaining more attention

galtzo.com•22 days ago

Tuple is pretty cool. 🆒

mikedg0.bsky.social•22 days ago

It looks amazing

ratkins.net•22 days ago

Yeah Tuple is aces, we’re a full-remote 100% pairing shop and we couldn’t live without it. I love their team too.

tuple.app•21 days ago

💜

arcanegraindev.bsky.social•22 days ago

I’ve been trying to get everyone to use tuple instead of zoom! It’s so much nicer, has great pairing features, and I find it’s much more stable than zoom on a slow or intermittent connection.

eluciusftw.bsky.social•22 days ago

Thank you for bringing this to our collective attention. Would love to try it with one of my colleagues, but he's on Linux. Does it work there as well, the web page only mentions Mac and Windows?

krusty93.bsky.social•22 days ago

Is it similar to vs code live share?

davidcrespo.bsky.social•22 days ago

it's a beautiful app, really perfect. it's expensive for intermittent use but a total bargain for daily use

jeremykreutzbender.com•22 days ago

Many of us remember using ScreenHero to do this in the early 2010s. Slack gobbled it up and made a worse version of it

shaunguimond.com•22 days ago

Absolutely love it! Cursor is still my top, but Tuple would be second for sure!

segmond.bsky.social•22 days ago

Eh, ongoing for decades with screen plus vim/emacs session.

geoffharcourt.bsky.social•21 days ago

It's extremely good.

jrosaproenca.bsky.social•22 days ago

You meant "pair" right?

changogoat.boats•22 days ago

he unfortunately can't change it anymore now😂

nate.rip•22 days ago

We used Tuple as well in the first days of Zed too! (We used it to build our own pair programming tool, @zed.dev 😁)

jacobpackert.dk•21 days ago

We use VSCode LiveShare on occassion in my team at LEGO - really good! Both for pairing and mobbing.

gergely.pragmaticengineer.com•22 days ago

I have zero affiliation with this tool and have not used it (and not been paid to mention ofc)

But it is telling that when AI tools are so popular, a well-built pair programming tool can still be more efficient? This was a staff-level dev btw

The tool: https://tuple.app

nrposner.bsky.social•21 days ago

Looks like they appreciate the shoutout!

dezfowler.com•22 days ago

That looks promising. Gonna take it for a spin ASAP.

caludio.social•22 days ago

Shopify uses it internally because they do A LOT of peer programming. Unless, of course, with AI forced down their throat they are now mandate to just "vibe it"

brmatt.dev•22 days ago

It’s such a great app! It feels like you’re sat next to your pair - completely different class to screen sharing in zoom/meet, and has nice touches such as obscuring sensitive apps like 1Password from your pair

ernesto-jimenez.com•22 days ago

It reminds me of Screenhero back in the day!

I was so sad Slack discontinued it after the acquisition. I will definitely give this one a try. Thanks!

stefano.baghino.me•21 days ago

I know it’s just a typo, but now I kinda want to explore the idea of “lair programming”, which ironically sounds like the exact opposite of pair programming. 🤣

islamnaasani.com•22 days ago

bummer it's not available for linux

enso.codes•22 days ago

This looks promising 👀 Saving this to show my team next week.

blockyield.bsky.social•22 days ago

Haven’t used it in years but have very fond memories of it “just working”

gergely.pragmaticengineer.com•22 days ago

From responses on the other site: pretty much every dev at Shopify uses it, apparently!

https://x.com/benrwolfram/status/1921294249233944970?s=46

gergely.pragmaticengineer.com•22 days ago

And Anthropic as well - wow!!

If the company building AI tooling to aid development uses pair tooling sonextensively: you know something is up

https://x.com/alexpalcuie/status/1921293820731199886?s=46

phillipcarter.dev•22 days ago

Weird that they don’t bring up VS LiveShare which has done this in vscode (and VS) for years? The UX on that is actually quite good, including collaborative debugger support

brmatt.dev•22 days ago

I mean, Tuple has also been around for years too (~2019), and lets you use apps other than VSCode. Liveshare is good, but it can be frustrating when you’re trying to show something outside of the editor.

gergely.pragmaticengineer.com•22 days ago

My understanding is in their company every dev gooses their IDE and not everyone uses VS Code!!

neweden.bsky.social•22 days ago

Yeah I was thinking IntelliJ Code With Me

jpsc.dev•22 days ago

One of the founders Ben Orenstein talked regularly about the business at https://hackersincorporated.com/episodes. He has stepped away from the business for almost a year now.

bobbby.online•22 days ago

You would really, really appreciate how calculated they were making the initial product. I was one of the earliest users and their care for UX and user feedback is legendary in how it helped this form something so fully featured for such a specific hard problem.

bobbby.online•22 days ago

And they dove into learning C++ fresh as a webdev historically. Not easy to do while bootstrapping a business!

bobbby.online•22 days ago

But that choice ultimately made it the sleek performant product it is today that blows the rest of the solutions away

josephgruber.com•22 days ago

Yikes. That price though. And sadly, subscription based. 😞

gergely.pragmaticengineer.com•22 days ago

I’m sure you can find open source alternatives that work OK

For some reason this one “just works” and it takes a team to build and maintain something delightful and reliable. If you use it for work, daily, this amount is a no-brainer expense for the company - and makes the tool possible!

vartec.bsky.social•22 days ago

Well, in other companies I'd use screen sharing via Google Meet, but Tuple is definitely more powerful with the other person actually being able to click and write themselves. Tuple is definitely using it is part of Ant eng culture.

p-y.wtf•22 days ago

We have it widely in use at Square / Block. When I set up meetings in gcal I often have it generate a Tuple link instead of a Google Meet link, if we're going to pair or mob.

tuple.app•22 days ago

🫶

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