Say what you want about workplace safety rules, they exist because someone was injured without them. Extend that to armed forces: national security protocol exists specifically due to soldiers & civilians repeatedly dying without it being followed. The question isn't how they ignored this, but Why.
Prevents there being a paper trail. If they hadn't fucked up so spectacularly, there wouldn't be anything available to FOIA request regarding this strike beyond what went through official channels. One of the Project 2025 training videos recommended using this app to communicate because of that.
Resignations won’t happen. Democrats need to take deputized federal marshals and arrest them for breaking the espionage laws. They need to stop playing badminton in a game of nuclear war.
Are these ppl so damn stupid that they don't know when the evidence says otherwise? Jesus Christ, are we seriously living in the upside down right now? When you lie about this, what else have thry or will they lie about. Fuc
Nobody mentioned, there may have been a US official in MOSCOW in the group. MOSCOW! who would spy on how long it took you to pee, and its color and how much you produced!
Using Signal in the first place is either an egregious oversight or a malicious way to delete data from public record. Even if there wasn't a leak, this is a critically serious issue.
Their responses about having never participated in a Signal chat containing classified information have the same amount of truth as the tobacco company executives saying "Nicotine is not addictive." That was Ron Wyden asking that question, too.
Come on, this is trump world, where everything is upside down and backwards. These guys are gonna get metals of honor and pay raises for doing this shit, just to own the libs.
I agree. Anything less leaves our nation at risk. Why would any nation willingly share classified information of any kind with this administration. It could be viewed as malpractice if they did.
They still have cover for the question specifically being about other group chats. We've seen all this before with them saying the NSA doesn't collect data.
Well, let's see. One horded classified info in his bathroom and another sent classified info in a group chat. It's America, no one will be held accountable. We truly are becoming a facist country
So has any one of the Democrats called out the fact that releasing the name of a CIA operative is releasing classified information? Or are they just being allowed to lie under oath?
If these unethical individuals share their filthy things on official systems, everything is recorded. Nothing remains on Signal, so they can't be criticized or accused.
They will continue, only they will be more careful... if they can, because they are evil, but not very intelligent.
This is only true if they know how to play Prisoner's Dilemma and they all choose to delete it and play nice. The problem is these are all incompetent narcissists incapable of cooperation with other parties.
You put any one of them on trial and suddenly Signal isn't safe at all.
What is interesting about all of this is all those "innocents" on the chat are forgetting every detail of that chat exists on Jeffrey Goldberg's phone. Since they all swear it was NOT top secret, then Mr. Goldberg can publish the info. Right?
Agree! My theory why they are being so secretive about sending 'all those killers' to El Salvador is simple — they didn't bother to get names and identification!!!!!!! Let that sink in.
They don’t fear prosecution because, as long as they’re loyal to him, their boss pardons people who try to murder police and who literally shit on the us capitol floor.
But (in a normal world, which we aren't in), they can't have it both ways. They can't say there's nothing classified and then prosecute him for releasing classified material.
So the person who was in no way involved in discussing war plans outside of a SCIF, would be prosecuted for releasing texts he received, that all of our intelligence leaders say did not contain classified information??
Pretzel logic.
Personally, I think Goldberg needs to get that information over to lawyers and archives around the nation before he is potentially harmed or disappeared. I guarantee he fears for his life right now.
How the information is handled needs to be considered, so that the GOP does not shut down any effort to investigate this shitshow due to technicalities.
Problem with This particular situation is there’s a WITNESS!
And I’d bet He’s retained the information. I mean , he Is a journalist. Right ?
I’d also bet he’s in a secure location.
The Democrats should learn from the Republican reaction to Benghazi. Talk about nothing else, and keep pounding away. Hillary did nothing wrong but was hurt politically by the aftermath. Making the Trump Cabinet look like the band of buffoons that they are is the best strategy right now.
I agree with you 100%! Hillary was questioned 11 hours, they dragged her, and used it to chant “lock her up.” They are truly disgusting hypocrites. We need to pressure & keep on this!
Reading a The Atlantic article this morning, it appears that the Felon is waiting for the public to lose interest in the National Security story.
As we do ...
Accordingly, they will most likely be throwing increasingly upsetting actions against the wall to overwhelm the current story.
I really agree with this. If only Fox had shown her testifying truthfully for 11 hours instead of hysterics 24/7. Keep the pressure up on all those responsible & don’t change the subject. Don’t let the media start tomorrow w/a new story. Dem Leaders - don’t stop demanding resignations.
I think we can all agree the GOP HAS GONE TOO FAR. The so called president should be fearful of this security crisis after all Iran has a death threat out for him.
This gang who can't shoot straight should all go home and see if Trump can do better with a second round of nominees.
This group is just darn lucky that Jeff Goldberg is more concerned with national security than any of them, so he didn't just upload their entire text chain as is!
Trump would have been better off with his original national security advisor and Director of Defense, but in typical Trump fashion, he shot himself in the foot and ended up giving the jobs to people with lots of money but zero experience.
Sounds like they perjured themselves there at the end… what are the odds that the whole group of them decided to try out signal for the first time to plan a strike on the Houthis? Zero. 🤣
100% this is a dodge around record keeping requirements (and in other contexts FOIA) there's a reason everything that goes through the proper encrypted comms systems is recorded.
But if Trump says it was under his instruction, doesn’t that mean nothing can be done? He has civil & criminal immunity from anything. His administration can do whatever they want.
Sure but they will still become unemployable. One of the proud bois got pardoned for his insurrection actions and has been crying this week that no one will hire him. Consequences
Trump Admin maintains that info Hegseth posted was not classified. So then, presumably, they should have no problem The Atlantic publishing the full content of the chat?
That's Always gonna be the problem, isn't it...one of these groups believes in rules and the other one is conspicuously offended by the concept of rules.
Every single Republican that does not stand up to tRumpf is a Russian asset. They want to be a part of the oligarchy and enrich themselves at the expense of the American people and damn the consequences. I hope they know there's a special place in Hell just for them.
Something tells me that that very thought has been running through Chief Justice Roberts' mind for the last week or so. At this point, I'd be curious to know what kind of pushback he'd get from Thomas and Alito on the subject.
Yup! As an attorney and amateur legal historian, that SCOTUS decision, as well as Citizens United, are the two decisions that most impact our world today. Dems must take aim at them if we are to survive and progress as a nation.
You're absolutely right! At the end of their lives, they're going to have a Life Review sort of like I did when I nearly died. During a Life Review, you get to see, feel, experience FIRSTHAND how your actions impacted others. I sincerely hope they have fun with that! 🎉
Don't ask liars if they are lying. Just look at the chat for proof then fire them. All you are doing is giving them air time to try this in the court of public opinion.
These mfrs lying to congress, US citizens and the whole f*n world - straight faced, unblinking. THIS is who they are; who they’ve always been.
If u think they have any hesitations about destroying our lives while smiling on tv, you’re delusional and need to be deprogrammed before ever voting again.
In 2023, if only those 31 indictments for willful retention of national defense information, and a further six counts relating to obstruction, conspiracy, and concealing documents in a Federal investigation had gone to trial in FL, THIS may NOT have happened.
Russia has targeted SIGNAL. If they were using personal phones and standard applications they were insecure. They are required to use secure communications.
Members of the chat were in Moscow. How dumb is that?
What I’m hearing: They seem to truly believe this conversation… was not classified. Trump must’ve specifically ordered that the Signal conversations regarding Yemen *not be considered classified. He’s ordered it done “off the books”
People, the problem now is Trump can just think about anything in his head to declassify it or just to say it was not classified in the first place. Do you get it now? the rule maker just changes the rules as he goes. It is up to congress to say we call bullshit and hold these people accountable.
Democrats must NOT LET UP until there are resignations, including Vance. This was a horrible, arrogant breach of security, that could well have gotten people killed. And, maybe it did.
Send the whole delegation out to the open sea in Inuit Kayaks. To rule over Greenland, the least thing you need to know is hunting seals and whale from an Inuit Kayak.
This stuff up has empowered Vance - see his inflammatory comments today about Greenland. It’s yet another injustice Trump’s goons will get away with, because they’ve incapacitated the constitutional checks & balances, & the President is immune from repercussions. They will just laugh about it.
No, you're wrong. What you did last night was illegal and stupid. RESIGN, every last one of you. No, it was not a mistake. It was everyone of your gross negligence.
He may have turned it all over to these senators, who are cleared to see it. The senators can and should release them; that would take the journalist out of the trumped-up legal jeopardy we all know they're scheming to apply to the first person to publish. https://Trump.ru have put themselves in a catch-22.
If the chat wasn't classified, then ostensibly, the chat contents can be released, no? Goldberg is probably too ethical to do that, but he should be able to turn the info over to Dems who do have clearance. I'm sure there's info on the chat that Goldberg would otherwise have no way of knowing about.
Should anyone believe them “I can’t recall”🤦♂️🤦♂️😂😂
Amazing how they remember what Biden said or did but never “recall” what they themselves were involved in.
As I am watching the hearing, all of our so called National Security are committing perjury and being evasive. Time to have some justice for these incompetent sycophants! 😡
And what happened to Jessica Aber, investigating the darkest corners of Trump’s network. That story went dark veryfast. A young lawyer doesn’t just die at 43.
I don't know how signal works, but what I will say it seems to me odd that there were about 17 high level officials on that chat AND NOT ONE questioned who JG was and why he never contributed to the discussion.
How convenient that they are saying they weren't involved, simply because they didn't comment in the group chat? Or that they didn't say anything other than do it or something else seemingly benign. 🤔🙄🤦🏻♀️
Resignations usually stem from a degree of shame or guilty conscience, good luck finding any here. The people in these positions seem to revel in being unjust.
It's very hot in China now. Could this prompt them to take action that effects our national security? Did DNI watch project 2025 training film to eliminate all references to climate from all government reports
Right when they answered and lied to your face Senator Wyden, you should have yelled at them by calling them LIARS and then cut them off when they would fake protest to that.
If Radcliffe and Gabbard truly believe that they didn’t discuss any classified information, they’re too fucking stupid to be in their respective offices.
Either way, every single person in that group chat should resign or be fired.
You're in a conversation with 17 others. Hegseth says we will be BOMING! and you can't recall if he told you locations and times. Maybe the CIA director and the National Security director jobs are over your heads? Or you are lying. You've got to pick one🤥 Goldberg remembers.
Also breaking news. The FBI has announced a “Tesla threat task force”. So it would seem the FBI is really serious about finding out who’s telling musk to go fuck himself.
It seems likely that he is having them set on fire and either taking the loss and or getting insurance money. They’re not selling and they are being recalled for more glue repairs.
“I am of the view”? Dems still not being emphatic — it should be, “Everyone involved has committed crimes, and should all resign.” Fixed it. There is no room anymore for weak “Well, I think . . . “ or “allegedly . . . .” Give MAGA no quarter and no understanding.
Yes! I appreciated Jeffrey Goldberg stating outright, “That’s a lie” about Hegseth’s comments that the messages were not too secret… that’s the energy the Dems need!!
And Crockett, AOC, Bernie, and a few others do indeed call MAGA what they really are. Now it’s backbone-growing season for the others, or it’s get-out-of-our-way season. Only two choices.
What can dems really do, though? If Trump says this is how he wanted his administration to communicate, they get away with it, because it’s what he wanted and he has criminal & civil immunity.
I don't know what they can do. American voters chose to set the country on fire, and now the flames are so big that the only thing to do is wait until it's fully burned to the ground and then get started on the rebuild.
Yea Signal doesn't retain messages on their servers, so once all parties delete them on their devices, they're gone for good.
However, I believe that Signal does retain an audit log with metadata containing info that can identify senders/receivers of messages transmitted. Hope they look into that.
Yea, I meant more in regard to their claims that they're not involved in any Signal chats involving classified information. I bet that metadata would indicate that they have *a lot* of communication with each other over Signal (and that the messages are now all deleted on their phones).
No doubt, wasn't it the go to platform during Trump 1?
I'm sure a lot of data could back up specific events, like strikes on targets or a surge in covert operatives being picked off by foreign adversaries.
Do they do courses in keeping your face impassive like that while you tell a bare-faced lie? Tulsi Gabbard looks like she passed the advanced level one.
Yeah, I think I'd add the CIA Director to that list. I mean seriously, the Director of the CIA didn't suggest a secure line? Not exactly an international man of mystery, is he?
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Show these jackasses in the Trump administration how a real American handles sensitive information.
This will be interesting
Vance is part of it and the Tangerine Shit Gibbon has been given an awful portrait of himself to worry at, in order to upset and distract him.
If they want to bring out the Lie Detector to find out who’s leaking info, we can use on all of his cabinet too!
They will continue, only they will be more careful... if they can, because they are evil, but not very intelligent.
Exposing these lying so called national security leaders
“It wasn't a simple leak
It was a catastrophic failure of judgment & security
It offers a 1st-hand chilling glimpse into the current administration's dangerous recklessness”
Bravo Olivia
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You put any one of them on trial and suddenly Signal isn't safe at all.
if they are going to slander him-He has the right to publish the truth & show US they are all LIARS
Pretzel logic.
And I’d bet He’s retained the information. I mean , he Is a journalist. Right ?
I’d also bet he’s in a secure location.
As we do ...
Accordingly, they will most likely be throwing increasingly upsetting actions against the wall to overwhelm the current story.
👊🏽
https://theonion.com/democrats-huddle-to-decide-how-best-to-let-massive-republican-fuck-up-slip-through-fingers/
Are they simply #Ignorant
OR providing “Aid and Comfort” to America’s
“Enemies?”
It’s an honest question as we watch the Trump Administration threaten #AmericasAllies
#AlignItself with #AmericasEnemies
#ShouldBeAshamed
https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/03/10/trump-putin-russia-asset-spy-security-ukraine-europe-war/
This group is just darn lucky that Jeff Goldberg is more concerned with national security than any of them, so he didn't just upload their entire text chain as is!
They have been doing this to evade accountability all along
That said if they are convicted of a Federal offense he can pardon them, so...
another crime maybe?
1. Fat;
2. Slim;
3. No
according to them?
If anyone gets any texts about any invasion/annexation plans, please pass them along. No worries. The Trump admin just said it's nor classified info.
They are running the circus now
I hope there is an afterlife and a judgement day so these bastards can burn forever.
If u think they have any hesitations about destroying our lives while smiling on tv, you’re delusional and need to be deprogrammed before ever voting again.
Russia has targeted SIGNAL. If they were using personal phones and standard applications they were insecure. They are required to use secure communications.
Members of the chat were in Moscow. How dumb is that?
A slap on the wrist (if that) and they will be sent on there way.
They are basically untouchable right now.
That is exactly what I think. I am sure I am NOT the only one!
Speak out! Call 202 224-3121 and ask the republicans that same thing!😡
Amazing how they remember what Biden said or did but never “recall” what they themselves were involved in.
#DemsFindingTheirVoicesAndBalls
#FireHegseth
#HegsethIsaClown
##GabbardRESIGN
#HegsethRESIGN
Is Jeffrey Goldberg on a plane to Venezuela yet??
I doubt it.
#oregon
#oregon
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https://youtu.be/woYyG0jH_oM
"Inadvertently" disclosing Classified Information on a non-government platform IS NOT necessarily a Crime.
One Guess as to what This Administration WILL claim?
They are openly mocking all of us.
Either way, every single person in that group chat should resign or be fired.
I'm sick of giving these fuckers a pass. Just because they act like children, doesn't mean we have to treat them as such.
However, I believe that Signal does retain an audit log with metadata containing info that can identify senders/receivers of messages transmitted. Hope they look into that.
I'm sure a lot of data could back up specific events, like strikes on targets or a surge in covert operatives being picked off by foreign adversaries.
And also Vance, Ratcliffe and Miller for participating in the chat.
And now Patel and Bondi for refusing to investigate.