Remember…no one in eastern Canada can refine oil sands crude (special facility needed) and no private corp has any interest in building one. So that is just a fantasy idea. And Churchill’s port is only usable for a very short time each year. #cdnpoli - ThreadSky

originalaurelia.bsky.social • 14 days ago

Remember…no one in eastern Canada can refine oil sands crude (special facility needed) and no private corp has any interest in building one. So that is just a fantasy idea.
And Churchill’s port is only usable for a very short time each year. #cdnpoli

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204queenb0574.bsky.social•14 days ago

No one in eastern Canada will upgrade or build one because Irving is greedy and would rather buy conflict oil from Saudi Arabia. So it's not that they can't. They won't.

And Suncor has a refinery in Montreal that can refine heavy oil. I'd say Montreal is eastern. You've been lied to.

originalaurelia.bsky.social•14 days ago

Elizabeth May was the source, and I confirmed it, Montreal is at capacity, and other private refineries can’t make a profit with the price of oil on world markets this low.
Bitumen and Western Canadian select have a really high cost for their break even point compared to sweet crude. #cdnpoli

originalaurelia.bsky.social•14 days ago

It’s really not about preferences or conflict oil etc, lots of sources besides the Saudis. It’s easy to say that we should buy Canadian but in many countries, their oil is cheap to refine, easy to access. Ours is expensive and difficult to extract.
#cdnpoli

shannonpeel.bsky.social•14 days ago

China has built the refineries for our oil - we just can't get it to them.

Seventy-one out of Europe’s 95 refineries are now capable of processing heavy and/or pre-processed crude from tar sands

204queenb0574.bsky.social•13 days ago

We aren't the only country that has heavy oil either.

originalaurelia.bsky.social•14 days ago

Well as of last November, we were shipping loads of it to Asia and way more since. #cdnpoli
“Canadian oil exports to Asia have gone from effectively zero prior to Trans Mountain entering operation to a monthly average of $325 million since May, according to ATB Financial”

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/trans-mountain-pipeline-cost-overruns-1.7357954

shannonpeel.bsky.social•14 days ago

Now they just need to dredge the Burrard Inlet to get the right ships in

204queenb0574.bsky.social•13 days ago

Thank FIPA for that. That's the entire reason we had to buy the pipeline in the first place. Didn't know Harper put that in, eh?

originalaurelia.bsky.social•14 days ago

And we ship Newfoundland Oil to Europe (and home)
#cdnpoli
https://www.gov.nl.ca/fin/economics/eb-oil/

elainechipman.bsky.social•14 days ago

This is 💯correct.

originalaurelia.bsky.social•14 days ago

So let’s not get ahead of ourselves, a lot of what people keep proposing is stupid. It’s just for headlines #cdnpoli

204queenb0574.bsky.social•14 days ago

The Ring of Fire is Ford's first project under his new bill. And Wab is now saying he wants a pipeline to Churchill for LNG or another port at Fort Nelson. The Trump excuse is wearing very thin with me. This is not justification to do things like gut environmental protections like Smith has done.

204queenb0574.bsky.social•14 days ago

I was led to believe that PMMC was a climate activist. I haven't seen any evidence to support that. In fact, he seems to be more about oil and gas than anything else. While my province burns.

shannonpeel.bsky.social•14 days ago

The first Premier project to get Federal priority is the NS / NB Offshore Wind Farm

Oil pipeline is on the agenda to get the companies to put in their planned carbon capture system

So he does have green energy projects on the list

204queenb0574.bsky.social•13 days ago

Carbon capture doesn't work. It's also called advanced oil recovery because it is used to get every drop of oil out reservoirs and uses that very same stored carbon to do it. Decarbonised oil and gas is fiction - it creates almost all the carbon when burned. So excuse me if I'm skeptical.

proconsul.bsky.social•13 days ago

Carbon capture is not a climate solution. It’s a capital shield.

The "reduction" is marketing theatre.

But politically? It’s a chess piece. It buys time. It keeps fossil execs in the room long enough to negotiate a profitable extraction in the transition.

northender480.bsky.social•14 days ago

Patience people puleeeze. O & G is also perhaps on the front page because of you know who from AB.
I don't vote Liberal but let's see where we are by September. I am more than willing to see what the PM reveals in time.

shannonpeel.bsky.social•14 days ago

The media likes to report on the controversy stuff not the good stuff.

The prioritising of the NS / NB offshore wind project didn't get headlines

204queenb0574.bsky.social•13 days ago

Premiers aren't being patient. They're setting up all the laws to make it easier to ignore environmental assessments, transfer public land to private hands, Ford has already established his first exclusive economic zone - The Ring of Fire under Bill 5. This is all happening simultaneously.

204queenb0574.bsky.social•13 days ago

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/2025/06/10/premier-blasted-for-changing-stance-on-pipelines

elainechipman.bsky.social•14 days ago

We are sorry that the fires have hit your province hard and things are still out of control. Fires have hit many provinces hard in the last couple of years and will continue to. This is a problem that cannot be solved in a short period of time. But let's give the new government a chance.

204queenb0574.bsky.social•14 days ago

He dropped the carbon levy as his first act as PM. I'm not very hopeful.

originalaurelia.bsky.social•14 days ago

He is re-presenting it—but focusing on business paying, and the lower income tax credit makes up for the rebate being cancelled for individuals.

originalaurelia.bsky.social•14 days ago

This is the speech he gave as governor of the Bank of England. And it was his entire department at Brookfield. Seriously, he just got in. Some of this is new
#cdnpoli

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/speech/2016/resolving-the-climate-paradox

shannonpeel.bsky.social•14 days ago

People want everything at once!

I'm not sure why the Saudi Arabian and Indian leader invites. Considering Trump's love for the Prince and he just met with Modi, I'm wondering if those 2 late invites were at the request of Trump.

I'm getting mixed signals from Carney, but I'm still all in with him

mumsie.bsky.social•14 days ago

Carney knows what he’s doing my guess would be keep your enemies closer but then again he’s a very open minded guy that can handle himself just fine with those people sitting at the table when he’s finished they’ll know what he wants

204queenb0574.bsky.social•13 days ago

I've seen too much of the garbage Pierre promised coming from him and I'm really worried he played us all and he's actually working the Conservative agenda? Carbon tax? Gone. Immigration? Will leave migrants and asylums seekers unable to ever get permanent residence. Economy bill? Fucks over FNs.

originalaurelia.bsky.social•14 days ago

Well I think the reason they invited them is partly economic, and like them or not, better to have them with the West than snuggling up to Russia and China.
And usually a G7+ folks/G20 is also about wider diplomacy issues and staff and bureaucrats getting together. #cdnpoli

hobbitlover.bsky.social•13 days ago

"Fix the economy but do it in a way that doesn't leverage our natural resources!"

The plan is to reduce carbon produced while harvesting oil and gas, use it to displace coal and Russian influence, and invest some of the profits in renewables here. Most people are okay with that.

204queenb0574.bsky.social•13 days ago

The carbon they capture is used for advanced oil recovery which removes every drop of oil from reservoirs and creates even more GHGs. And the wind project in Nova Scotia makes more sense than using another fossil fuel to replace coal. It's always oil, oil, oil and it's really tiring.

204queenb0574.bsky.social•13 days ago

Sure. White people are more than fine with it because it won't destroy their traditional way of life or their traditional homelands. The Constitution says free, prior and informed consent is needed. How has that gone so far? No bill passed can make provinces consult if the Constitution can't.

204queenb0574.bsky.social•13 days ago

Every single resource is on First Nations, Metis and Inuit land. That's just the reality that everyone is ignoring. Even the PM.

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/2025/03/14/fight-trump-build-the-economy-but-dont-forget-about-indigenous-peoples

hobbitlover.bsky.social•13 days ago

First Nations need economic development, too. Most have realized that, it's just a matter of negotiating a fair price for access.

Where do people think Canada's wealth comes from?Resources are the backbone of our way of life and standard of living.

originalaurelia.bsky.social•14 days ago

Ford and Wab are not the Federal govt. Not Carney.

And they can’t do anything without local FN consultation, which is all 100% federal, and to be fair, those FNs want rail and road access and infrastructure set up and jobs so they will want some mining to happen.
And it’s not coal mining #cdnpoli

204queenb0574.bsky.social•14 days ago

The Constitution says they need free, prior and informed consent. How has that gone so far? Provinces have already passed laws that will speed up resource extraction and done so without any consultation at all. These are the laws that will govern national projects. https://www.aptnnews.ca/featured/fast-tracking-to-a-reconciliation-breakdown-ottawas-resource-rush-is-straining-first-nations-relations/

204queenb0574.bsky.social•14 days ago

You can't call it one Canadian economy without including First Nations, Metis and Inuit.

originalaurelia.bsky.social•14 days ago

All these rare minerals are used for electric batteries and clean energy production as well…and a lot of modern extraction is done with newer, safer, better methods. It’s not strip mining or open pit anymore. At least not in Canada. #cdnpoli

204queenb0574.bsky.social•14 days ago

Right. Like Smith isn't preparing to mine coal in Crowsnest Pass. They don't GAF. Premiers are going to do whatever they want. Without any consultation at all.

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