trying to guess how the inevitable Supreme Court ruling shakes out here - do they allow their special boy to do what he wants or do they affirm this on the same basis they exempted the Fed from their Humphrey's Executor fuckery and take away his ability to crash the economy by fiat fun times! - ThreadSky | a Reddit-style client for Bluesky

rincewind.run • 6 days ago

trying to guess how the inevitable Supreme Court ruling shakes out here - do they allow their special boy to do what he wants or do they affirm this on the same basis they exempted the Fed from their Humphrey's Executor fuckery and take away his ability to crash the economy by fiat

fun times!

Reposted from Catherine Rampell

US Court of International Trade has issued unanimous ruling in case against Trump “liberation day” tariffs
ruling also covers case filed by 12 states led by Oregon
All tariffs invalidated as beyond scope of executive power; implementation blocked by permanent injunction, per @ilyasomin.bsky.social

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jimriceesq.bsky.social•6 days ago

God he and they have managed to elevate the “boys will be boys” doctrine to stare decisis

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matthewtriponey.bsky.social•5 days ago

I think them randomly deciding the Federal Reserve is the only independent government agency previews this decision well enough.

zappit.bsky.social•6 days ago

Well, the bribes won’t keep flowing if the millionaires and billionaires take major hits on tariffs. My guess is they uphold it.

benjicardoso.bsky.social•6 days ago

I think they affirm, on “the Fed is special because it’s good politically for the GOP” doctrine. I’m genuinely shocked though, thought the (bad) law was actually on Trump’s side here.

suasponte2023.bsky.social•6 days ago

I thought it was "Trump playing with the Fed would actually hurt our wallets so nooo thank you."

benjicardoso.bsky.social•6 days ago

Both

seentoomuch.bsky.social•6 days ago

Can that court get appealed to the SC? No idea if they're under the SC's jurisdiction.

seershuh.bsky.social•6 days ago

Definitely

seentoomuch.bsky.social•6 days ago

Thanks. It'll be fun to watch the not entirely insane conservative 4 tie themselves in knots over this.

passwordismiket.bsky.social•6 days ago

Administrative stay and then just sit on the case for 3.5 years.

ktap33.bsky.social•6 days ago

I think SCOTUS let's him win. This will probably be the case he's most fixated on, and they know he'd probably defy the court if he lost.

whatsforlynch.bsky.social•6 days ago

On the other hand, they might know that the impacts of these tariffs would ultimately pose the greatest threat to the larger project, and take the excuse to nip it.

asherelbein.bsky.social•6 days ago

John Roberts, sweat pouring down his face, staring at two flashing buttons, trying to figure out if he can somehow press both at once

zachrabiroff.com•6 days ago

They'll find a Very Officially Legal way to say that the tariffs Trump already did are fine because he's the greatest and we love him, but he absolutely can't do anymore because the Founders said so

loki1001.bsky.social•6 days ago

He has gotten so good at pressing the "there is a theoretical, undefined limit on presidential power that can be used on a Democratic president, but Trump certainly did not hit that limit..." button.

thekindlyman.bsky.social•6 days ago

They can't do anything but overturn. These tariffs, coupled with the DOGE lunacy, are the entire basis of his approach to governance now. To take it away from him would lead to him forcibly disbanding the Court I suspect.

adamiani.bsky.social•5 days ago

You know, next time we should try writing the law down.

sudhof.me•6 days ago

Given how much energy they put into their "major questions" the question is "does this only apply to Dems"?

haywoodfloyd.bsky.social•6 days ago

Exactly. https://bsky.app/profile/michaelcaley.bsky.social/post/3lqbeahqjzk2q

rincewind.run•6 days ago

sort of vaguely leaning towards "they affirm this on the basis of 'I would prefer my bank account and the GOP political project stay intact'" but there may also be an element of "this is important enough to Trump that we don't want to piss him off that much" so who knows

shoshanna7111.bsky.social•6 days ago

Yup

tobybartels.bsky.social•6 days ago

Even with the Fed, they haven't ruled against him on that. It's just an obiter dictum. When push comes to shove, they may still cave.

atenyousee.bsky.social•6 days ago

Imagining a conversation with my 1L self about how this is, in fact, con law now

kbspangler.com•6 days ago

It'll probably come up at the same time as another of his pet projects, and they'll give him that one while allowing this one to die.

jginsburg.bsky.social•6 days ago

Should be kind of interesting, Trump wants these tariffs more than anything and may try to do away with SCOTUS if they don't rule for him

haywoodfloyd.bsky.social•6 days ago

The impact of the tariffs seems to have been relatively muted so far because of TACO. The fact that no one in business is making any capital investments is the sort of bad thing that shakes out a few years down the road as lower growth and, hey - maybe it will happen during a Dem admin!

caraeilis.bsky.social•6 days ago

Some fool of a reporter asked him about TACO. He didnt react well.

haywoodfloyd.bsky.social•6 days ago

If they are smart (they probably aren't), they will insist that the ruling go through the normal appeals process (and refuse to stay the injunction) and issue a decision some time in 2027.

rincewind.run•6 days ago

as always, it's delightful to try to guess the result of Supreme Court deliberations with no regard to the actual text of the laws involved because lol lmao why would they care about that

statsboyandi.bsky.social•6 days ago

Even if we get a Roberts 2 step, the Alito-Thomas screed is gonna be a burner

casemonster.bsky.social•6 days ago

ravenonthill.bsky.social•6 days ago

Probably Roberts breaks out the bucket of gray paint he uses to draw broad fuzzy lines. Some weird and ambiguous decision that technically forbids this but practically allows it.

"The law is the loser."

zuthal.bsky.social•6 days ago

Has any media outlet done some funny animal predicting supreme court rulings yet the way they do it at least in germany for football world and euro cup games?

pjbrissy.bsky.social•6 days ago

There’s the also the balance of “if we rule against Trump, will he choose to ignore our order, and in conjunction with his captured Justice Department, render us powerless?” This is the real existential threat to SCOTUS, the monster they created replacing their supremacy with impotence.

pershing48.bsky.social•6 days ago

*Voice of a clueless dumbass*
There's a Court of International Trade?