Anecdotally it also seems like the scene is more troubled by crowd killing and other really antisocial practices that were pretty stringently policed back in the day, at least in the scenes I walked it.
I remember being at a Fear Before the March of Flames show in like 2006 where they stopped mid-song to throw a crowd killer out and everyone cheered; now the attitude seems more “don’t go to a show if you don’t want to get hit bitch.”
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