watching people who seemed mostly normal 2-3 years ago call their industry peers nazis for having a mildly different stance about llms or image generation is pretty wild
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It's pretty bad and it really brought a lot of problems with how people react to the unknown, to progress, and that most don't care about actual problem but just follow the dogpile train
really all i want to say is “maybe things can be art even if they’re bad and even if they’re made for bad reasons,” but that seems like an invitation to more argument
My usual barometer for engaging is whether there's 1) a prospect for developing understanding or 2) a need to correct / challenge in front of an impressionable audience I care about.
i know one of the people doing that in that thread, though we're not close, and i am exercising a lot of self control to not be like "you can't be talking like that, baby"
what's even funnier is that this is only the second person to immediately jump to camps with steve. there was a whole other major blow up like 2 days ago and the holocaust was the immediate, go-to contrast. it was insane.
i’m not super informed about it, but after looking it up it kind of seems like the defacement (which it totally is) is like a piece by a (at best totally clueless) person that speaks to people entirely forgetting the meaningful context of the original painting?
that is an "at best" reading yes, and any perusal of the poster's other activity outs them as a coy alt-right poster. anyone mad about it not being art made that call, as you say subjectively, amidst a crowd of baying 100% nazis.
nobody has called steve a nazi, but it would have been very easy for him to say "oops shit i had no idea i should have looked that up first" before tripling down and then slow retreating trench warfare style
it is actually very funny and i say this as someone who is constantly bitching and demeaning towards LLMs and how technologists have uncritically hyped them up as a tool and increasingly common facet of society writ large
if nobody can say that they were hurt by someone's comments, or even correct them when they're misinformed, or anything in between, what are we doing here?
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Neither is true here.
without listening, or looking it up
him refusing to admit that he should've learned what he was talking about isn't the same as people calling HIM a nazi