Some 21 million Americans don’t have ready access to a passport, birth certificate, or naturalization papers. And the SAVE Act would require these documents to register to vote.
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My trans son would no longer be able to vote. Many married women also. This is all by design. What I don’t understand is how they think they have jurisdiction over this when it’s the states that run the elections and decide what ID (if any) you need to register and vote.
It's unfortunate and sad. It's a way to stop people from voting. Also, if you're a woman and your married name is different from what's on your birth certificate, you are disqualified from voting.
And, as side note, until real restrictions are initiated, firing passport agents
will slow down pending/new request. Hope nobody wants to vacay away this summer. Drivers license and birth certificates are both state initiated. Red states will comply and slow them down further. Blue states, phew!
To an Australian, where voting is mandatory and therefore easy and efficient to do, (you don't have to vote for a party or person- just turn up) this is so shocking! They really don't want anyone to have the capability of voting them out do they?
If you know you’re supposed to have these documents, if you care about voting enough to go through the process, if you are reasonably educated to navigate the arcane rules, if you can spare the money, and if you have access to a computer, it’s not that hard. That eliminates a lot of people
Seems to me that a lot of this could be solved by revamping Social Security cards to include photos and signature, and something that identifies the card holder as a US citizen. Like a “residency status” code. I mean, every citizen gets a SSN, right? They need it for benefits, tax filings, etc.
It passed in the house last year. Dem Senate majority then, of course, let it sit. Not if, but when the now rep Senate votes for this bill it will be sharpied into law the very next day if not same day. Guaranteed.
People not having the documents to meet the SAVE Act requirements isn’t the only problem, consider how insane it is to expect millions will be able to present paperwork to govt, entities as our entire govt workforce is being decimated by Musk/Trump. Try getting a DMV appt today & see what I mean.
Other Americans have or had a passport but the government is working to take it away while refusing to allow them a new one because they clicked x in the gender field.
Big problem: Social security offices handle the replacement & new social security cards & and need your original documents for a legal name change so you can vote, get a passport, or change your benefit name. Musk/Trump new staff cuts just made this a year-long process like applying for benefits.
I have zero reason to get a passport. If the government pays for it I’m all in. But you only need a passport if leaving country. I am not going anywhere!
The 10 Democrats who joined Republicans to censure Al Green: Jared Moskowitz, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, Tom Suozzi, Marcy Kaptur, Jim Himes, Jim Costa, Laura Gillen, Chrissy Houlahan, Ami Bera & Ed Case https://youtu.be/S5aqA4jEtlY?si=dHppTwcNZGl3p9
When will we as a nation accept there is only one solution to this political coup …. to continued manipulation of voting data…gerrymandering, purging of voter rolls, intimidation at active polling sites, intimidation of poll workers, lastly erasing votes to flip swing states…otherwise we are done.
And thus you have severe voter suppression. You have gerrymandering. You have Russian interference with misinformation and disinformation. Thus you have MAGA party winning elections. That's how it will be from here on. These criminals have grabbed power and they will never let go of it. Ever.
Don't forget that Trump is also working to get rid of consulates and embassies making it harder for Americans Abroad to get those passports, as it is Americans Abroad don't really have true representation.
I just checked to see what it cost to renew my passport. $145 plus $15 for photo plus $35 for mailing. You need a certified copy of your birth certificate for an original application and that cost me $35 years ago. This is not chicken scratch for most Americans!
And this bills vailed attempt to roll back woman voting. Since I changed my last name to my husbands last name he would vote ‘for’ me!!🤷🏻♀️ irony of that for me personally is my husband is a ‘naturalized’ citizen I’m a born American citizen🤬
Honestly, it upsets me when I vote that they won't accept my ID to vote (State of IL) and go by my signature. Every time I have a teenager question if I am me because my signature is never the same twice.
I am for it, but let's find out why these people don't have it and help them to get it.
Even worse for married women who took husband’s last name- need birth certificate and current passport. You think there are enough employees left able to handle the influx of demands for passports to prove married name status?
This is so simple to undo. Publicise that these people are more likely to be MAGA (which isn’t a long shot). The GOP will flip flop quicker than Trump on tariffs.
It will also prevents women from voting if you are/were married and took your husbands last name. If your last name doesn’t match your birth certificate YOU CANNOT VOTE!!
Way to disenfranchise millions of married women who changed their name.
I wanted to have the same last name as my kids, so I (alone out of my generation of cousins) changed it.
Now they’re looking pretty smart, and I look like an idiot.
That's the point...
And with the coming abolishment of voting via letter, in conjunction with scrubbing votes and hacked tabulators you get a shadow democracy.
You know where else this has been achieved?
Russia.
I remember having to get a certified copy of my birth certificate when I got my first driver's license in Florida. I also had to provide it when I got my driver's license in Georgia.
Seems to that legislation might hurt the rural Trump voter even more..how much legal documentation do you have when your husband is also your father ??
Are you MARRIED? Did u take your spouse’s last name? Then the name on your birth cert is different than the name you use today. True for some 60+ MILLION WOMEN. SAVE Act attempts to be an end run around the 19th amendment. It MUST NOT bc law or women effectively wo a voice once again.
Not Just That BUT They are Also Firing All these Workers who are tasked with Processing and Confirming Your Info …, GOOD LUCK TRYING TO GET A PASSPORT NOW 😳😳😳🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Creating an obstacle to American citizens trying to vote is exactly what they're trying to do, voter suppression has been the Republican playbook for decades.
It seems kind of intuitive that more than half of these people are non-college educated, blue collar workers, who are predominantly Trump voters. Does the GOP actually think it's a good idea to take voting rights away from their base? Or is this a more nefarious top of the slippery slope?
I'd like to see an impartial analysis of those 21mm Americans. I have a suspicion that this might actually hurt MAGA voters more than Dems overall, and if so, I'm all for it!
If the Democrats don't come out and fight this, hard, they've fully given up, cause they're never going to get elected again. Frame it like it is- a voter suppression act against women- and argue it loud, everywhere, including the eight wing podcasts and news shows.
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Yep, I just dug up my ancient birth certificate so I could get my passport. Just to get a passport card, it's about $80. At least now I can stop dragging my marriage certificate around.
I do not understand why in a country that supposedly has the 'right to vote' makes it so hard to exercise that right. In Canada, you do your taxes, check a box that says that you want to be included on the voter registry.
You have to have a social insurance number to file taxes, which means your Canadian/permanent resident. When you go to vote, you show your photo ID that shows your address and provide your voter card that comes in the mail. No voter card, bring a bill like Hydro, with your name and address on it
I can pretty much bet magats don’t have passports. Very few well traveled people are so ignorant and racist. The billionaires club of isolated greedy bigots is the exception. Those sociopaths only care about enriching themselves.
Does this proposed bill require every single person in the USA to reregister to vote, or will it mainly affect new voters and those removed from voter rolls who will need to reregister?
Also if you lose documents through flood, fire, tornado, hurricane, etc. Difficult to replace. It took a long time for women to have the right to vote longer if you were not white. What is wrong with elected officials? They are public servants for the people not to look for ways take away rights.
That is why they are doing it. Your name does not match your birth certificate if you take husbands name when you marry. If you don't take husbands name, divorce, your name not the same as your child, your not invested with your children. Pretty tricky. Husbands rarely take wife's last name.
I certainly could be wrong, but as written, the marriage certificate does not help you. The unsaid purpose of this omission is bc the intent is to do an end run around the 19th amendment, women’s right to vote. Allowing marriage certs erases some of that advantage.
I've been kicking around the idea of changing my last name to my maiden name to make sure I can continue to vote. Then, all the other things I will need to change, including my passport 🤬...what bullshit.
I keep my passport up to date, but it takes forever for the renewal. Why is your drivers license no longer valid id? They will do whatever it takes to cheat, they need to be stopped. Such evil.
Which costs money. It also would not help because you STILL have to show the progression of your name changes. Changing your name back to your maiden name is just another name change.
Chip Roy TX Republican:
"Okay, let's require a passport to vote. But before we do that, let's have the DOGEY KIDS eliminate all the workers in the State Department who process them. Oh,oh,oh, but before we do THAT let's make sure all our MAGA followers get theirs."
Tell Congress NO on the SAVE ACT
I had to provide my DL to register to vote. To get the DL I had to provide the documents required by the REAL ID Act of 2005. So this is all performative theater.
It will also make it difficult for people who have gotten divorced and kept their married name. Some of us are looking at getting birth cert, marriage cert, and divorce cert to get a passport. With fed worker cuts, this may take more time.
That's the main problem with a vast swathe of the US population. Not having a passport means you don't get to travel elsewhere, immersion in other cultures, educate yourself in the lives of other countries and Actually LEARN something
I m not the brightest guy .. but wasn't the real id supposed to cover all those items .. for over 40 years I automatically show my ID when voting , whether I need to or not .. I refuse to be questioned about who I ve always been
99.510,000 Million Americans citizens over 18 and under 65 years. Have a Ged at worst. Or a High-school diploma as the Maximum of their Education Achievement.
Most don't have the wherewithal to educate themselves further..
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Every Single day. The population of the Continental United States. Have to fight for their LIMITED DEMOCRACY. No other Real DEMOCRACY has to do this.
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They’re going to pass it and everyone will be real concerned as we continue to spiral down the drain. I already had to get a copy of my marriage license to prove my name.
Cool, glad for you! I've tried many times by phone and email. I've asked if they had updated their records digitally from 1979 and never got a straight answer. This was the registry office in Bromley. I should try again I guess, it's been a few years.
Fascists want to control participation in the electoral process. That is how they can guarantee a "win".... Hitler did it and now Mango Mussolini and his merry band of sycophants are doing it. I am not convinced there even will be free and fair elections in four years time
You need your birth certificate, (not a copy or certificate of birth.. a raised seal birth certificate) and your marriage certificate and 2 other forms of ID. How many men will this affect compared to women? Well.. besides JDavenport Bowman Vance. @GuyReschenthaler.com my rep is a co-sponsor.
You are backwards. I was shocked when I learned not everyone has an ID. It’s not that difficult. Give an ID to everyone. That’s what the rest of the world does.
One branch of the opposition needs to be focused on helping people get the documentation they need to vote!
I even wonder if we can bribe folks with gift cards to motivate folks! If em can offer million dollar prizes…
I will disproportionally effect republican women, at least at first. More likely to have taken their husband’s name, and less likely to see the writing on the wall. But it’s going to hurt trans, rural, and disabled voters too. Oh hey… does this mean name change number 3 Vance can’t vote?
A passport implies you might fly somewhere. Until à real government straightens out this FAA shit, there is no way I’m stepping onto a plane. Maybe in 2028….
This will hurt the Republican base more that it’s going to hurt the Democratic base. Things have shifted. The Democratic base is more educated. They tend to travel more and have passports. The Republican base is now more blue-collar and they travel less. This may come back to bite them very soon.
I've actually been considering changing my last name to match my birth certificate in order to protect my right to vote. I have proudly shared my husband's last name for 2/3 of my life, yet proving who I am (and I have all the documents) is a ridiculous amount of work.
A month ago, spouse & I submitted our photos, Real ID Driver’s Licenses & Birth Certificates with our completed Passport applications. I got mine in 10 days, still waiting for his. WTF? Cannot even buy international airline tickets without the passport #s. 🚧
Yeah, guess they're taking the babysteps vote-removal route. Still not sure why they're bothering. Just go boom and eliminate voting entirely, it's what they're panting to do, just do it. Instead it's death by a thousand cuts. More sadistic fun for them, maybe.
Probably wishful thinking but I can't help but think progressive thinkers would already have these things. If it passes we need to work on our base obtaining these papers.
Can’t get a passport, birth certificate, copies of naturalization papers. Sounds like some serious voter suppression. Women, migrants of all types, this sounds suspiciously like Project 2025 that Trump knew nothing about.
Why can't 21 million people get them? How do they even make it into adulthood? I know why Trump wants to do it, but shouldn't these people also try to get some basic IDs for themselves? Of all the things Republicans do, this one does not bother me.
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will slow down pending/new request. Hope nobody wants to vacay away this summer. Drivers license and birth certificates are both state initiated. Red states will comply and slow them down further. Blue states, phew!
Also one of the 10 Dems to CENSURE Al Green.
Also 1 OF ONLY 2 Dems to vote FOR the GOP’s disastrous budget proposal last fall.
Marie Gluesenkamp-Perez.
A Democratic traitor.
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Canadian and puzzled.
As you know of course
I am for it, but let's find out why these people don't have it and help them to get it.
I wanted to have the same last name as my kids, so I (alone out of my generation of cousins) changed it.
Now they’re looking pretty smart, and I look like an idiot.
And with the coming abolishment of voting via letter, in conjunction with scrubbing votes and hacked tabulators you get a shadow democracy.
You know where else this has been achieved?
Russia.
"you'll never have to vote again?"
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... would no longer be able to vote.
Ladies, it's about control and removing our rights.
Along with everyone else's.
Protect the American right to vote!
Who the hell knows where their marriage license is, especially if they have been divorced for 35 years?
"Okay, let's require a passport to vote. But before we do that, let's have the DOGEY KIDS eliminate all the workers in the State Department who process them. Oh,oh,oh, but before we do THAT let's make sure all our MAGA followers get theirs."
Tell Congress NO on the SAVE ACT
Confront them at every turn. Town Halls. Restaurants. Airport. On the streets. Peaceful but constant.
Persistent, pop-up, peaceful protests.
No democracy, no peace.
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Most don't have the wherewithal to educate themselves further..
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And that is the intent of the SAVE Act:
SAVE the GQP
I even wonder if we can bribe folks with gift cards to motivate folks! If em can offer million dollar prizes…