You call these people pragmatists, but like all "pragmatists", their pragmatism is driven by their ideological conception of pragmatics. For them, historically, that has been driving the party ideologically to the right, as Starmer has done. Now, they are are turning on him. - ThreadSky

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hughtopia.bsky.social • 9 days ago

You call these people pragmatists, but like all "pragmatists", their pragmatism is driven by their ideological conception of pragmatics. For them, historically, that has been driving the party ideologically to the right, as Starmer has done. Now, they are are turning on him.

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jacklondonbluesky.bsky.social•9 days ago

I did not cvall these poeple "pragmatists" I don't think..... maybe you mixed me up with someone else - or are looking at my profile where I use the word

jacklondonbluesky.bsky.social•9 days ago

We'll see - I think you're mistaken, and this is more a "come on, mate!" exhortation than the start of attempt to unseat him - for such intentions usually involve secret coordination over a bit of time then an attempt to kill the king

jacklondonbluesky.bsky.social•9 days ago

And who do you think they are considering to replace him - Lisa Nandy?

It is not going to be a left-winger

hughtopia.bsky.social•9 days ago

I am not saying *this* will be the thing that lead to his downfall. I am saying that the ideologically right wing of the party are starting to turn on their man. This does not mean they will suddenly elect a leftist, they'll put someone who they perceive to be more ideologically aligned with them,

hughtopia.bsky.social•9 days ago

And we'll see them fail to win any votes because they too "pragmatic" to change course. Starmer's "pragmatic" approach of borrowing social policies from Reform and economic policies from the Cameron hasn't worked, but they'll try it again with someone new.

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