Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas are all about politics in its most basic sense: how do we live together? What should that look like? Who is included? Who is excluded? Who decides? How are these things governed by material and ideological conditions? How do differing visions conflict? - ThreadSky

hughtopia.bsky.social • 4 days ago

Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas are all about politics in its most basic sense: how do we live together? What should that look like? Who is included? Who is excluded? Who decides? How are these things governed by material and ideological conditions? How do differing visions conflict?

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lightbydan.com•3 days ago

but also gibbing baddies on critical hits

hughtopia.bsky.social•3 days ago

Could do that in the original fallout!!

lightbydan.com•3 days ago

yes that's what I meant! that's why the grislyness of the TV show seemed to fit for me

hughtopia.bsky.social•3 days ago

I have no issue with the amount of violence; my issue is with its narrative function. In episodes 3 and 4, we spent most of it watching a man torture a woman so he could “bring her down to his level”. The pain and degradation is emphasised, and it’s that pain and degradation that influences her arc.

hughtopia.bsky.social•3 days ago

In the non-Bethesda games, violence has typically served an aesthetic function (to emphasise the absurdity of the setting) and to emphasis the precarity of the little civilisation that still exists. It rarely emphasises pain, and abstracts away the humanity of the victims.

hughtopia.bsky.social•3 days ago

This allows the player to engage in horrific acts without it becoming (too) fetishistic, while also underlining the notion that life is cheap. The thematic function of the violence is political rather than personal for the most part. The TV series is pulling more from Cormac McCarthy novels.

butwhosjan.bsky.social•3 days ago

I think if they really wanted to make a true Fallout series, they should make characters glitch through walls and have random parts of their body disappear

hughtopia.bsky.social•3 days ago

And the TV show should just soft lock halfway through and it’s just four episodes of them all in a room saying a random line at each other.

hughtopia.bsky.social•4 days ago

The series and the Bethesda games never got that.

jcy23.bsky.social•4 days ago

I am seated for the acknowledgment of New Vegas as Obsidian and the swipes at Bethesda

hughtopia.bsky.social•4 days ago

Bethesda have never made a Fallout game. They have only made crimes against humanity.

jcy23.bsky.social•4 days ago

I’m scared to say that I kinda enjoy playing 3 and 4 now lol, albeit for different reasons to my goated New Vegas

hughtopia.bsky.social•3 days ago

That is shameful. You should be afraid. You’re not allowed to enjoy bad things.

jcy23.bsky.social•3 days ago

I do think 3 is overrated tbf, but fun DLC

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