Once again. It is NOT the case that Starmer et al believe that moving right will actually win them more votes. The situation is that they have to move somewhere, and they rightly fear that moving left would weaken Labour First's control of the party. www.theguardian.com/commentisfre... - ThreadSky

jemgilbert.bsky.social • 29 days ago

Once again. It is NOT the case that Starmer et al believe that moving right will actually win them more votes. The situation is that they have to move somewhere, and they rightly fear that moving left would weaken Labour First's control of the party.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/may/05/reform-minorities-labour-british-public-keir-starmer

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iwasid.bsky.social•29 days ago

Frances Ryan's article begins

"Reform UK’s ascendancy to power..."

👀

#Normalisation

anothertimbre.bsky.social•29 days ago

I was active in the party for 6 years, and hardly heard of Labour First until after Starmer became leader. We need a good book explaining how they operate & control the party machine, who funds them etc. Do any of them have laudable ideals, or are they all just unpleasant power-obsessed operators?

philedwards.bsky.social•29 days ago

They aren't obsessed with power. They're obsessed with stopping the Left gaining power - at any level, from Downing Street down to an elected position in a Labour Party branch.

bigfez.bsky.social•29 days ago

I haven't read it myself yet, but reportedly this book covers a lot of what you're asking about:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/208144049-get-in

davidnzuk.bsky.social•28 days ago

So, the same stupidity that killed the Torys?

ladydelancelevee.bsky.social•28 days ago

They just need to move to EU…

mrkevinb.bsky.social•28 days ago

Well they can try to maintain control of the party but they’ll screw the population over ie. Those that might vote them back in ! But Hey what do I know ? !

bigfez.bsky.social•29 days ago

I am broadly sympathetic to your point of view, but I just don't see how their aims are better served by losing the next GE than by winning. Surely the best way to control the party is if they are in government. Or, if you're right, why did they go to all that trouble last year?

adrianmcmenamin.bsky.social•28 days ago

The brilliant analytical skills that saw Corbynites go from control of every major institution in the Labour Party to controlling none of them in the space of six months have not deserted you and your co-thinkers, we note.

jemgilbert.bsky.social•29 days ago

If you don't believe me just read this. It's perfectly obvious that this is what they should do to actually boost their popularity. But if they did this, it would be the beginning of the end for those weird McCarthyite freaks controlling the machine.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/labour/2025/05/why-labour-shouldnt-shift-right

terrypasta.bsky.social•29 days ago

I'm strongly reminded of how violently sectarian Labour has always been in the NUS. It's student politics.

iwasid.bsky.social•29 days ago

"Focus groups are revolted"

#GE2029

housewife7.bsky.social•28 days ago

In the words of Beyoncé "to the left!"

robyeldham.bsky.social•28 days ago

Might this is be about “inoculating” those with are migration sceptics by providing a space to discuss border control within the mainstream, rather than driving them into the hands of extremists?

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