Worthy of what? It's interesting that you speak of the American government being over, but it ended because the American people were no longer worthy of it - - and you attach a picture of the stock market at close. This implies America is simply capitalism. That is wrong. That is incorrect.
Since we didn’t prevent the Orange Turd from being elected for the 2nd time after getting a hint of what he was capable of the 1st time, and considering the havoc he’s causing now, why would any other country trust us to ascertain any new leader we elect won’t be such a massive shitpile? I wouldn’t…
THat's not the USA. That's a graph of NASDAQ. What's the matter? Lose some money?
Repent! The founding fathers will descend from heaven and make you worthy again! Unless you're a woman or black or native American or poor or...
We let the idiot take the wheel because everyone deserves a chance even the idiots. The problem with this logic is that soon enough the idiot will crash the car. Here we are. We should go back to hiring qualified people for the job. Kamala was much more qualified. Things could have been better.
No, it's over because you and your right wing buddies spent forty years pumping rage, ignorance, misogyny and racial resentment into the veins of America so that Republicans could get elected and steal everything that wasn't nailed down...
Americans did this to themselves by not acting earlier to stop Reaganomics and admitting that he and Friedman were wrong. Also, the wars. It can get better.
Wow. I have repeatedly said that America gets the government it deserves. Democracy is hard work. It requires an investment of time & energy. Today, most Americans are lazy.They would rather default the country to an autocrat so they can spend more time on Facebook & Tik ToK. Shameful!
Sure. But we don’t work enough at our democracy. A large percentage of eligible voters don’t vote. Most voters don’t adequately inform themselves about issues and candidates. They would rather be entertained than informed so they readily accept conspiracy theories & crazy disinformation.
I'm not sure everyone deserved this, but we all need to fix this ot. and stop it from ever happening again. we have get through this mess somehow first.
That is bullshit! While we may deserve what we have it is because too many people were foolish to vote for the bugger, even more didn’t even vote at all, and the oligarchs were allowed to buy what we have in DC! That will be changing!
Who's no longer worthy? All the people who campaigned against Trump, warned that this would happen, marched and gave $$ and called and did all we could? The majorities of every ethnic group but white who voted against this? They're not worthy?
Grow up. There's a country to take back & rebuild.
Me? I sure as fuck don’t. And yeah, I’m quite angry at my nation, and I definitely understand others’ anger at the USA. But when I see these guys at the Bulwark blaming all Americans for letting this happen, when many of them supported Reagan & Bush—fuck that shit!
Just remember when we non- Americans say we hate Americans we mean the Government and the Red-hats. Just like we all mean the Regime when we say Iran is a bad country.
That’s fine—I have no problem with people of other countries being furious with us. I just hate seeing Americans being all doomer and saying “we’re all garbage!” when millions of us were against this.
It was not a big enough majority, and a lot of people stayed home. As a country we flunked it. And there are some hard lessons for the democrats as well, including that canvassing and phone banking might not be as effective as they think.
You, as a nation. Thats how elections work. You put Trump in power which shows a fundamental flaw in your society. Not on an individual level but on a national one.
The USA certainly has fundamental flaws, I agree. But the Bulwark guys are ex-Republican (or “good Republican”), and they don’t have a leg to stand on, saying “we” when so many of us have been against this hell for decades longer than them.
You, as an individual, do not condone the behaviour of your government, i know that. And i love you for resisting the fascist overtake you are experiencing.
That said however, you WILL be judged by the outcome of your fight. Fight hard, fight well.
They have to remake the Democratic Party. Then they have to win Congress and Presidency. Then they have to rebuild all public institutions and probably their economy. Then they have to try to rebuild global position. Finally they need to rebuild relationships and make amends. They broke our trust. 🇬🇧
Not it does not. Your former allies cannot now rely upon you. You have actively made us into competitors both economically and militarily. Utterly insane. It’s on you to try to recover and rebuild your democracy and reputation. It’s on the rest of us to build an alternative strong democratic order.
Baloney, we deserve this. 90 million did not vote. America is lazy and complacent, and we are all soon to be even poorer as a people while the oligarchs rule like Russia.
Capricious gerrymandering + the corrosive influence of $ in political campaigns is what got us here & fixing thos 2 issues is the only thing tht will get us out
A lie. Every human deserves dignity, health, security, food, clothing, medical care. To damn every other person that fought against the ignorance, the intolerance, the hatred of those who - by the way - also deserve these things, is itself monstrous. Nobody deserves this.
You realize much of the rest of the world has already moved on without America right? I’m not saying don’t fight, I’m saying some of the damage has already happened and won’t be fixed easily.
@jvl.bsky.social nails the current mood & likelihood of a US comeback, but ignores a distinct possibility, beyond the usual voter disenfranchisement: 4. Scrump did what he said he'd do & stole the 2024 election outright. Musk harvesting registration data in swing states. Not a single paper recount.
With coalition talks on the verge of collapse I must say that us Germans are more stupid than US Americans. We see in realtime how a government that prioritizes state sponsored pogroms over all else works out, yet 25% of Germans want the same at home, and the other 75% seem unwilling to stop them.
Wow, I am from Wisconsin and that’s perfect and so heartbreaking. America is no longer their ally and that makes me sick. Fuck Trump, Fuck MAGA nation and Fuck the Republican Party. I hope we can fight like hell to move the needle back but is 73 days, Trump has turned the clock back decades.
The Bulwark comment doesn't look fully in the mirror. The US autocratic "interests" kicked over democracies and imprisoned opposition all over the globe. Now our masters find democracy here inconvenient. So we get a dose of our medicine. Pinochet happens!
77 million people is not a majority of 330 million. The other 253 million of us are the victims. Don’t blame me for this. I did everything I possibly could
People who voted for Harris might be fairly classified as "victims," but those who couldn't be bothered to show up and vote against DJT are complicit as well.
we as civilians did not deserve this. the government we have now should be enduring all the pain they are causing instead of those they are hurting. Tenfold.
Guess what, Bulwark. "We" don't DESERVE anything. But, maybe you do! Remember before Tim Miller had his "Saul on the Road to Damascus" epiphany, he and the rest of you pulverized norms to prepare and fertilize the soil resulting in our current fascist downfall. Fie. Upon. You. Bulwark.
Because Republicans have been pumping them full of fear, hatred, misinformation and kept them in an information bubble, in the name of "fair and balanced", while simultaneously courting the worst of the worst for their votes for years. The lunatics took over the asylum. It was all a lie—
BS, I didn't vote for that mother fucker. I don't deserve one iota of what he's pulling in this country.
I'll keep fighting.
What I won't do is accept, obey and cave.
I hate these posts. Life is tough. So what. As a grandma I not giving up so easily. My grandkids - fighting for them. Even Franklin told his supporters that the America was not perfect but each generation must fight to make it better.
Understood. But I don’t see anyone giving up. Calling out the problem isn’t the problem itself. The things we did, the risks we were willing to take to make this American age are things we no longer do. To change that we need to be aware of it.
Trump is an economic simpleton who has just cost US companies, pension funds and individual share portfolios millions of dollars … Enjoy! @foxnews.com.web.brid.gy @bloomberg.com @cnn.com
I thought he would cause a recession now I am leading towards Trump causing into a depression. All the signs of a deep recession or depression is beginning to appear.
Well written article…rather depressing, but all of it i happen to agree with. American exceptionalism is over. Post WW2, our Nation spent trillions on building military defenses against outside threats. who could have guessed the real threat was within. America has destroyed itself.
The underlying rot within the US should have been evident since the Reagan era. Unfortunately, the Republican Party during the Obama ers and Hilary's candidacy quickened the spread of the rot, and their supporters happily wallowed in the lies spewed by Fox News.
All the while nurturing a narrative of rugged individualism, materialism, and violence. When the Cold War ended, we could have decided to take care of our own with better health care and maternity leave, but that wasn't our style, unfortunately.
“We cannot overstate what has just happened. It took just 71 days for Donald Trump to wreck the American economy, mortally wound NATO, and destroy the American-led world order.”
I can’t even articulate how sad I am.
Please get out and protest tomorrow.
At 21:50:
This is something I've been saying. This doesn't get fixed in the midterms. This (maybe) gets fixed but only after blood is spilled & likely not in my lifetime.
I'm not pleased by @jvl.bsky.social & @timmiller.bsky.social agreeing, though. I'd rather be the deranged lunatic on this one.
I am old enough to remember when a POTUS cut spending legally, saving us a trillion dollars. Why wont republicans pass bill instead of doing this stupid illegal stuff?
Trump loved branding things with his name. So: The Trump Slump! The Trump Crash? The Trump Recession? The Trump Depression? Trump’s US Lost Decades? Take your pick!
The American age is a continuing American revolution. Once we are beyond this Republican party, we will be back on the road toward liberty. This is corruption thru greed. We either survive it or the planet will end humanity.
along this line of reasoning, I myself have recently been thinking that I don't think I want to live in a country that re-elected krasnov, we're surrounded by them
I have heard that saying but I DESERVE BETTER! And I’m willing to fight for it. I don’t wear a flag pin or fly a big a** flag on my lawn but I love this country and I am-was proud to be an American. I want the country I deserve! I want a country that cares and helps.
Every empire falls with the decadency and illetracy of its citizenry. When 90 million ppl out 250mil didn't vote, that's decadency. You deserve whatever is coming as a result. You have reached a point of no return as a nation unfortunately. Only sorry for the sane people there rn.
I hate that this is happening, but if about 50% of the adult population doesn't think this is absolute and self inflicted disaster, then we absolutely deserve to fall.
I would rephrase this: The American Age ended because White America decided their superiority was worth destroying the country to maintain, just like their Confederate forbears
Ain’t this the truth!! Even the ones who didn’t support him, watched this shit grow in their homes & communities & didn’t call it out. Too afraid to upset people. Well, this is the price of cowardice 😩🤦🏽♀️
They won't say that because it RIGHTFULLY puts the blame where it needs to be. So they start up with this "We" bullshit to make it look like all of us wanted this to happen
Viral meme required, for each time the orange poppy pants tanks the market, FOX take's the stock ticker of the screen. As long as people watch FOX US is doomed to stupidity.
I think social media algorithms were used to dupe a susceptible population of MAGA morons. They stayed off in 2020, and I'm guessing many are remembering why now.
I feel a bit uncomfortable hearing we all deserve this. There are many of us who have been sounding the alarm and fighting Trump from the beginning. Blue states, for instance, have been spending millions of dollars suing the Trump administration and most of us did not vote for him.
Then you don't get it. Our country has been stagnant for about 25 years...we are barely democratic at this point under both parties. See your government for what it is. Biggest wealth disparity since FDR. It's our fault especially 45+ years old. We're leaving trash to the next generations.
I'm not sure both sideism is the right response to someone correctly pointing out half the voting public has been against the entire GOP project for decades.
Not sure I follow. I'm saying throwing progressive under this bus isn't fair, given our decades long fight to stop it. I think folks who were pointing out inequality as a damning flaw in our system in 2002 or 1992 or 1972 are entitled to a smidge of frustration, no?
I absolutely did not throw progressives under the bus. I'm a progressive. I throw our bought government under the bus where they deserve to be. We won't survive if we don't get money out of politics.
The big law firms that bent the knee to Trump are reflective of what is going on now. There are no values or principle that is superior to the quest for the almighty buck. So let’s stop blaming it on the I’ll-educated. Egg prices elected Donald Trump.
And because the US Supreme Court allowed this flawed, sociopathic, narcissistic criminal to escape justice for 37 felonies and become a dictator! Plus, I doubt the election was fair. It's like a Hollywood horror film.
I hope The Bulwark's conclusion isn't entirely correct. I'm not a fan of imperialism, but the US did better things with that fundamentally flawed system than most countries have.
However, if the American people don't get off their butts and act, Trump, MAGA et al will make a horror if what's left.
Worth noting re the Brexit comparison. Whilst that was indeed economically damaging, as things stand there is still a reasonably high level of political stability and adherence to democratic norms and principles.
The American people were manipulated and lied to by billionaires and exploitative labor practices. Rich people caused all this dumbassery, most Americans just wanted to get by.
My thoughts from Germany: I hear these every time after an election. But this helps only the fascists and extremists. Take the good outcome of #handsoff and keep going. Now is the time to find and build a new american way. Strong together and with big pictures, seen everywhere.
This angers me to my core. This is NOT the government I deserve! I went to college, paid my student loan & have worked almost my whole adult life. I have a son in college who doesn’t deserve this government!
Heard from a friend she heard an 80 year old Baby Boomer who lived through Nam asked “you Democrats the reason you loose is you don’t have a Hat” …going Viral until the leaders of the Democratic Party adopted it for their Own Blue Hat ! “Make America Care Again” MACA! Repost Repost it’s an Order!!
Fuck! It is because of the poor educational system we had in the past 60 years. It's also naive stupidity. We have a stupid population that believes in anything that Fox News and the shit like say. It's like believing anything shit in the National Enquirer.
This is so unhelpful.
It ended because of the immense greed of uber rich people with no moral core.
They fund disinformation, voter suppression, and gerrymandering.
Become helpful in your messaging. It would do everyone a world of good.
Yet you voted for it. People voted for Trump, people decided to not vote for anyone and the people who voted against Trump did nothing else. There is no resistance. This is created by US citizens by their ignorance, their inability to act and their individualism only caring about themselves.
Strangely, I feel freed by this.
We are the monsters.
To Americans who blame all of Israel or all of Palestine for the hell, or blame all men for horrors, or all white people for Trump..
Welcome to the Burden.
To be fair the author explicitly says the number that voted for him, not all Americans. But since he won, they represent most Americans, as those who didn't vote also chose this.
To also be fair, the blurb states "the American people," of which I am one and to which I was responding. Also, saying that a failure to vote is choosing Trump is one analysis and seems a bit facile to me. I'll go attempt to read the article but it seems like an unwarranted indictment of us all.
PS: I think the seeds of this were harvested by Ken Starr, planted by the lie about Iraq, nurtured by the Tea Party, and in full bloom when Obama was denied filling Scalia's seat. Now Last wants to pin the blame for conservative surrender to Trumpism on us all? He can eff directly off.
Theyre not really conservatives any more though are they? Conservatism in the US is dead and some ghastly fascist spectre is wearing it's corpse for convenience.
Also in Deutschland gibt es die Partei der CDU/CSU..Diese Partei ist gemäßigt rechts und hat mit Faschismus nichts zu tun!Allerdings gibt es im Bundestag auch die Partei AFD--diese Partei ist nachgewiesen faschistisch!!Bedeutet das keiner der anderen demokratischen Parteien mit dieser AFD koaliert!!
Moderate conservatism is a competing but basically healthy counterpoint to democratic socialism in most healthy democracies. The problem in the US is that the political needle is a long way to the right of anywhere else because socialist politics in the US was murdered in its infancy.
Never in my life (nor for at least several decades preceding it) has conservatism *anywhere* done anything to benefit anyone other than the already-cartoonishly-wealthy.
It has always served the interests of established capital at the expense of everyone else and the environment itself.
The problem in the US context is that what you call liberals are largely moderate conservatives. So historically you've got capitalist conservatives in both the main parties. Only the left of the Democrat party would be considered 'liberals' overseas, and a tiny minority democratic socialists.
Yes, I know. Conservative social policy is the politics of self over society, pushed by the wealthy to the credulous through huge political donations. Then again capitalism which is almost entirely conservative, is largely responsible for consumer goods that we all enjoy, so...
In almost every industrialized nation though, center-right moderate conservativism is what US Republicans call the "radical far left"
Modern healthcare systems, actual social safety nets, proper education funding, support for a fair rule of law & due process, etc. are center-right in the sane world
In the US I can see why people believe that because the Republican party has always housed both conservatives and fascists and the fascists have happily worn the conservative lable as it legitimises their more extreme beliefs.
I always ask US "conservatives" what they conserve.
It seems they conserve a lot of racial hate, homo/trans phobia, bad economic ideas, utterly false ideas of history & laughably a huge fear that "communists" are after them.
They are the fascists & conservative is just a word.
Yes true, but how much of it has been Americans being set up to fail for generations, with piss poor educational standards, income inequality which shows in school districts, and our general overall health being crap.
I said the night Donny sadly won. That by the end of this round we will not be the leader of the world & our money will not be the 'standard'. How sad i am to be correct.
You fucking idiots. Trump stole the fucking election.
I’ve been paying taxes for fucking 50 years. I deserve what I fucking deserve. We earned it and we’re gonna get it even if we have to throat punch 1000 fucking Nazis to do it.
I'm not sure 'we the people' as a nation ever were: this didn't happen without some intent. The modern foundation of our government was laid by duplicitous white men who want their plantations by, so I question whether--at our core--we ever were worthy of it. But somebody had to do it.
This will not be hyperbole if the Trump admin and the GOP maintain course.
It's easier to exclude the US from trade and other deals, than to deal with our unstable mad king.
We are the richest country to ever exist, granted. Which is why it's soooo stupid when Trump pretends we're the fucking victims of the other countries.
Europe alone is very near US spending levels. United with the rest of the free world, they can move along without us, while we wither to a shadow of ourselves like Russia.
Because of nukes, former empires won't be taken over. They are just pathetic shadows of what they used to be.
This is exactly the thing people who wanted the UK to leave the EU said. The world will go on consuming without you is what we learned. The world is going to be unstable for awhile, it will adjust and leave the US to its isolation.
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Whiny writer of this article ain’t it.
penguin: can’t leave island
government: “hmm. sounds taxable.”
10% tariff just for vibes
Showing you worthy today. With no counter protesters.
MAGA figured it out and Trump/Musk and the rest of his administration should probably run.
And going to show you worthy until Trump is impeached.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55332376-our-own-worst-enemy
Welcome to the Dawn of the Chinese century.
Repent! The founding fathers will descend from heaven and make you worthy again! Unless you're a woman or black or native American or poor or...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A8MO7fkZc5o
Americans are NOT lazy. We work harder, longer, hours than citizens of any democratized country.
See how stupid that sounds, Hans?
The perpetrator must be named.
Grow up. There's a country to take back & rebuild.
That said however, you WILL be judged by the outcome of your fight. Fight hard, fight well.
This is observable in bth parties
Capricious gerrymandering + the corrosive influence of $ in political campaigns is what got us here & fixing thos 2 issues is the only thing tht will get us out
We are an entitled and decadent society living off of the accomplishments and sacrifices of past generations.
We’re going to come back from the filth of Diaper Dons assault on our democracy
Fuck off with your crybaby capitulation
You’ve struggled to figure out what side you’re on
Figure out who you are or just fuck off
The Bulwark was previously pro Felonious fascist; then they changed their minds.
They’ve stepped up to realize the stupidity of MAGA but they’re still wavering, wishy washy
They can do better ~ and they will
Has that ever worked? Is China the model for them?
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Our Republic will emerge stronger but we must make fundamental change to the system and amend the Constitution.
Thought about asking if he was familiar with Caligula, but then I thought, "Well, at least he appointed the whole horse."
I’d also like to see an end to gerrymandering. Use independent commissions to create districts based on math.
Stronger voting rights. Make it easier to vote while ensuring election integrity.
I’m also not a fan of the existing two party system.
I’m so ashamed of my country right now.
https://youtu.be/wmDVrV7QRrU?si=IoC5izDcp8oW4YsPgps
I'll keep fighting.
What I won't do is accept, obey and cave.
The allies of the US must pivot and form new non-US allies, that weakens the Trump regime - which is good for Americans fighting for their freedoms.
All of the above
I can’t even articulate how sad I am.
Please get out and protest tomorrow.
https://indivisible.org/groups
#HandsOff
#05APR2025
# and state abbreviation eg #DC, #CA
This is something I've been saying. This doesn't get fixed in the midterms. This (maybe) gets fixed but only after blood is spilled & likely not in my lifetime.
I'm not pleased by @jvl.bsky.social & @timmiller.bsky.social agreeing, though. I'd rather be the deranged lunatic on this one.
Any articles on over 100000 international students saying that they are not coming back?
Join a rally -- our chance to speak our minds. (My mind has a LOT to say....)
https://HandsOff2025.com
#MAGAIsTheHost
It's a crucial time to motivate and congregate in relentless protest - which is working where we are consistent.
Cut the bs and go protest. Withhold money from these corporations. Pressure electeds ceaselessly. We have work to do.
Even Ruth Bader Ginsberg couldn’t exit her own exceptionalism to make space for a new SC judge.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/revealed-disinformation-team-jorge-claim-meddling-elections-tal-hanan
https://freepress.org/article/why-did-j-kenneth-blackwell-seek-then-hide-his-association-super-rich-extremists-and-e
https://citizensvotingny.org/news-blog/americas-largest-and-arguably-most-problematic-voting-machine-vendor-is-esamps-not-dominion-voting
It sucks that hiring a crack hit squad like the Mission Impossible team is illegal and immoral. It would solve everything.
Her life is now book-ended between The Worst Hard Time and 2-bit Thug Cheeto Hitler Destroys the Country because he’s a fucking Putin whore.
Its been working great for us. The article is about the system that works for the rich.
Let them consolidate power nearly unchallenged...
Laughed at the UK when the same players fooled them into Brexit... then signed up.
Now we complain?
#Protest!
#3.5%Rule!
💥💥💥💥💥
About everything and so was Hillary
And they still didn't listen
But no. And we'll never be able to get back.
However, if the American people don't get off their butts and act, Trump, MAGA et al will make a horror if what's left.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jan/29/five-years-nonviolent-protest-wrong-keir-starmer
The American people deserve this because they made DJT possible.
It ended because of the immense greed of uber rich people with no moral core.
They fund disinformation, voter suppression, and gerrymandering.
Become helpful in your messaging. It would do everyone a world of good.
We have fought wars to topple this form of government.
And that last bit about individualism being the problem - wow.
We are the monsters.
To Americans who blame all of Israel or all of Palestine for the hell, or blame all men for horrors, or all white people for Trump..
Welcome to the Burden.
America shouldn't be a fucking empire, no country should be an empire.
Conservative means fascist.
It has always served the interests of established capital at the expense of everyone else and the environment itself.
Modern healthcare systems, actual social safety nets, proper education funding, support for a fair rule of law & due process, etc. are center-right in the sane world
It seems they conserve a lot of racial hate, homo/trans phobia, bad economic ideas, utterly false ideas of history & laughably a huge fear that "communists" are after them.
They are the fascists & conservative is just a word.
They conserve their religion as a weapon against the world and the idea secular government.
This is the major problem.
Let's be real. Americans have been complacent for too long. We will spend this decade rebuilding.
The future 10 years from now will look different for America. But much, much brighter.
49.7% of voters.
1.5% over Harris.
Those people have decided to end democracy, end economic growth and stability.
Those people are not worthy of it. They should be made to pay.
Not quite, anyway.
I’ve been paying taxes for fucking 50 years. I deserve what I fucking deserve. We earned it and we’re gonna get it even if we have to throat punch 1000 fucking Nazis to do it.
The American age is not over.
I’ll see you at the protests today.
It's easier to exclude the US from trade and other deals, than to deal with our unstable mad king.
I’ll wait.
(Who is the largest importer of goods from china?)
But every empire to ever exist, has collapsed.
Because of nukes, former empires won't be taken over. They are just pathetic shadows of what they used to be.
USA 2024 gross imports 5.9 trillion
That’s over 2x the imports
It’s not really that close.
Tbh I agree it is stupid but I doubt it’s irreversible.
But if he doesn't reverse on tariffing the world, you can bet we will slide over time into a shadow of our former selves.
Which, is not a good thing. Who's chomping at the bit?
Which former self do you miss?
The containment era or the imperial one?
Personally I’m for the era prior to WWI when we lamented foreign entanglements, but who knows.
What Trump is doing is stupid economic warfare, but that doesn’t change the position of the USA as the world’s largest consumer.
It’s important to keep that in mind imo