I'm so exhausted by this nonsense. It's one thing to discuss the vast overreach of the US military. It's another to write off the sovereignty of entire countries as if they're merely client states - yet I'm seeing "leftists" do it all the damn time lately re: South Korea and Taiwan and it's worrying - ThreadSky

plantmaize.bsky.social • 29 days ago

I'm so exhausted by this nonsense. It's one thing to discuss the vast overreach of the US military. It's another to write off the sovereignty of entire countries as if they're merely client states - yet I'm seeing "leftists" do it all the damn time lately re: South Korea and Taiwan and it's worrying

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Yeah but those are sort of like embassies. They aren’t islands of American sovereignty within another sovereign nation. I’m legitimately curious what other satellite colonies we have aside from the standard Guam/Puerto Rico/Somoa.

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mhartman.bsky.social•29 days ago

Wait so, is it a trend to consider places where we have military bases to be client states?? Yes, we greatly over-pressure other countries, but none of them are client states, right? That sounds like nonsense. But I do want to know the full scope of their nonsense.

plantmaize.bsky.social•29 days ago

Yes, and it is nonsense if you know anything about the places they're mentioning.

mhartman.bsky.social•29 days ago

I think there’s no way Taiwan or South Korea can be viewed as satellites or colonies or client states. But I was curious what other places the original commenter considered to be American satellites.

starsea.quest•29 days ago

So…it’s just super great when they say the silent thing out loud…
I knew that they didn’t see us an actual country to be dignified with the basics of respect but …wow. Welp.

plantmaize.bsky.social•29 days ago

Yep. It smacks of not only ignorance but a kind of nouveau Orientalism to me. I've never heard anyone make the same argument about Germany or Japan (Okinawa/Ryukyu being doubly colonized by Japan and the US military), both of which are better known in the west and have their own imperial histories.

starsea.quest•29 days ago

Japan, occupies an interesting space in Western imagination is all I’m going to say on that.

plantmaize.bsky.social•29 days ago

This made me laugh unreasonably hard. 100% agree with you

starsea.quest•29 days ago

😘 it also occupies a fascinating space within Taiwanese framings tbf. Like I can’t get over “yeah I love Japan so much I visited 300+ times in the last two years”. Like, just move there already idk. 🤷🏻‍♀️

plantmaize.bsky.social•29 days ago

Yeah for me that's been the most surprising thing about living in Taipei - the romantic lens through which the Japanese colonial period is often viewed. So different than Seoul where there were monuments everywhere to various heroes that at different times fought and won against Japan.

plantmaize.bsky.social•29 days ago

It's hard for me not to read it as a long term psy-op so that one day there will be global support for the "liberatation" of Tw. and SK from evil American imperialism (by whom and to what end ahem ahem). I've seriously seen this revisionist nonsense gaining traction re: T*bet and 🤢😢

starsea.quest•29 days ago

You know that’s the end goal, yeah. I mean, I’ve heard similar rhetoric already from across the strait so…

plantmaize.bsky.social•29 days ago

Precisely. One can only wonder from where such rhetoric originated and whom it will most benefit *COUGH*

starsea.quest•29 days ago

*COUGH*

plantmaize.bsky.social•29 days ago

The "anti-imperialism of idiots" is only growing stronger and louder thanks to social media and at this point it's so hard to tell who's a real person whom I might be able to get through to, who's a bot, and who's a paid agent putting me on some kinda list

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