Hungary’s intelligence agency spied on EU officials visiting the country, searching their hotel rooms and recording their phone conversations, according to a bombshell report.
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Oh my God that's hilarious. You act like other countries don't do this. I don't know a single country including the United States that doesn't do this!
Well, we are devolving a bit here. It says spying on EU officials. Were they Hungarian EU officials? If so, they would be foreign to Hungry. Hungry does not equal the EU
Sad that I still have to explain that in 2024. EU delegations represent all citizens of the member states, Hungary included. On a personal level, yes, of course some of these officials are Hungarian citizens. But they work in the interest of all EU citizens, the Hungarian CIA allegedly not.
I'm not sure if you understand the nature of the European Union. I'm German, living in Italy (because they're no borders anymore in the EU and we can live and work wherever we want). I don't regard Hungarians as foreigners. The countries are independent, but we are a community.
Hungary…never not trying really hard to be anything but European. I think it’s time they pull the curtains wide open and pledge their allegiance to mother R.
While the Croatian minister of defense 10 days ago said Hungary is the biggest threat to Croatia. Excluding claims on many parts of our territory, now we know a little bit more reasons to be sure of it.
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And yet, the only reaction will be a statement issued by the @ec.europa.eu or @eucouncil.bsky.social . This masquerade needs to stop and Orban held accountable for his traitorous behaviour!!!
Because you need Turkey's approval for that. Turkey will never vote to expel a fellow dictatorship. Turkey should also be expelled but they can never be because of their geographic significance, and they know it.
So could the EU forget about making "lawful intercepts" so easy. This is proof that it is a bad idea. Instead they should use Signal which is kind of an unofficial standard and leave the phone for informing Moscow.
Kicking them out won't work. Look at Vučić in Serbia. The same type of dog shit (sorry for vocabulary). And punishing people is also not a very effective method. I'll adapt Croatian saying "It's time for Hungary to be on the table, not at the table."
While I've shared the sentimentality of this for a while, it becomes quite apparent quite quickly that it's not a viable solution, and it'd create many more issues than it would solve. I also would feel extremely bad for those Hungarians that don't support Orban, and I don't wanna.
The reasoning that "if they really want to re-enter the EU then they'll overthrow/stop voting for Orban is overly simplistic, as kicking Hungary would more likely motivate far right tumors in the country to flare up, and lead Hungary directly to Putin's arms, suckling his teat together with Belarus.
That said, money makes the world go round, so a stern financial punishment or three would probably hurt Orban's regime a lot more. Let his propaganda machine work to find ways to say "no wages/pensions going up the next 2 years because without EU I'm worthless".
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Not only should Hungary kickend out of the EU but as well out of NATO. Orban does not share the Western Values, Liberal Democracy, Rule of Law,
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Exactly. Let them join some Russian led slave union with corrupt, retard countries that are all bankrupt. Borders to Hungary need to be closed ASAP and not ONE Hungarian should be let into the EU
"The report added that it is common practice by Hungary’s spy agency to search the hotel rooms of visiting EU delegations and download information from their laptops."
That mix of Christian-infused politics mix with autocratic policies that align with Putin would not end well for Hungary in the long run. When you pray for rain, you gotta also deal with mud 😎📚✌️🌎
Orban's Hungary has become a hostile state and is acting as a Russian proxy. Orban may be voted out at the next election but having seen Russian's long term interference in the election process of the US, Rumania, Moldova, Georgia (and EU in general) I really would't put my money on it.
Well, yes, Orban is a putin stooge but the UK also does it. In a Michael Cockerill documentary Douglas Hurd once refused to deny that we spied on our EU allies
Orban is an experienced opportunist, populist, he is not Hungary, nor its people, nor its culture, it is the values of the EU which must be promoted and protected from its toxic influence
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And we all know, that they are spying for the enemy.
I am unsure why you are arguing this point with me, I am against the spying. Of course they shouldn't be spying on this kind of delegation.
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Let Hungary in both cases be replaced by Ukraine.
I do not expect anything else.
Continuously terrified how weak our representatives are and how their lack of actions is bringing disaster to EU democracy.
Hungary should have been at least cut from EU funds.
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and there would still be austria, netherlands, italy etc.
not to mention usa.
no idea how nato will prootect itself against enemies from within.
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"The report added that it is common practice by Hungary’s spy agency to search the hotel rooms of visiting EU delegations and download information from their laptops."