Have your doctor appeal it. Sometimes an xray is required first. Your doctor will know what to do. Hopefully, s/he has interest and time to pursue an appeal.
They are the true “death panels”. They spread the lies that the Canadian system had death panels that decided who lived and died. People bought that lie. Make it make sense.
Lack of education seems like the reasonable answer. Do they teach logic in college in the U.S., much less in high school? Nope. Critical thinking fled the U.S. decades ago. Thank dumb ass Boomers with brain mush for that.
Mangione's (alleged) murder of CEO Thompson has brought the Health Insurance industry's actions into the spotlight—which is a good thing—but he should not receive any leniency from the court if he's convicted. A pre-meditated murder should not be something that can easily be written off.
We may soon find out exactly how Luigi Mangione assigned sufficient guilt to Mr. Thompson. A notebook found with Luigi Mangione contains a description of killing a CEO that matches details of his alleged murder.
“What do you do?” a section of the notebook says.
OK. Sure. But you know the insurance companies are not the only villains here. We also have the hospitals and clinics that charge up the wazoo for every procedure
God wants that everyone is helped. He is a good God. He let it rain on the good and on the bad. He will show the light to everyone. In the end, it will be so dark, that everyone will seek the light. A self-fulfilling prophesy so to say. God is no murder. He wants us to live and to enjoy life. AMEN
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They don’t know what it is to live on the margin
Give Rudy Giuliani a cardboard box and a place on Skid Row. We can set them all up with a camera and people can watch his demise.
That’s marginal status and it ain’t no joke.
What mistake?
An legally excusable shooting?
Justified self-defense of others.
CEO Thompson is the most prolific mass murderer in US history. Like a concentration camp, UHC’s profit depended on the torture and agony (“life hours”) and deaths of condemned victims under their control.
Thousands saved.
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"insurance rules" that are designed to rescind essential services from those in need, it is genuinely just manslaughter, an active, enthusiastic decision that leads to people's deaths
Correct! And Never mind smug, condescending pricks like Ron.
Telling others “ you just want to…” is weak tea.
And he insults real victims of lynching by not even knowing what it is.
“Defense of others” is not a “justified self-defense” but an “excusable” killing.
I don't care what else he says, I just think his argument is weak as shit, you can't be a peaceful widdle pwotestew if those in power can just fucking kill you, you need decisive action, action that says that the people who comprise society are in charge
IF only there were prosecutors, law enforcement officials, courts, legislators, state/federal insurance regulators and contingency fee personal injury lawyers to address these issues.
Profit margins don't decide who lives and who dies. They absolutely try to kill everyone to maximize profit, but just can't quite get away with it..... yet.
Thou shalt not be so naive to believe that a system with only one goal, to make profit, will ever be beneficial to all people! If you don't like what the system is doing to people, change the system, don't expect the people to change to make the system work!
Class and revolution... two words that spell disaster. A change of heart and mind is the only way this will work. A change, unfortunately, that takes time, probably time we as a species don't have anymore. Maybe next time around we'll have less accountants and more emphats.
You can't make the soulless feel empathy gor the living. There's only two things they understand, money and power. We don't have the money but united we have power.
Power to do what? Impose one worldview on those with another? Then what's the difference between you and them? That you are RIGHT and they are WRONG? What's the difference? The clash of ideologies leads nowhere but to bloody disaster. If you don't understand this, you have no future!
You are saying those who make profit off our death and actively participate in killing people to make money just need some compassion. I'm saying they will never have compassion. I won't care about someone who checks their bank when someone dies. If you think I'm the same as them idc fuck you
That ship sailed, and sunk.
"Self-regulating free markets" is now the religion in the U.S.
Greenspan testimony to our senate after melting down the world economy in 2008.
He stated what many of us knew in 1980, "We were wrong about self-regulating free markets, we never considered the human factor".
I like to remind right wing Ayn fans, she was a fantasy fiction writer. What does that say about your belief systems?
I enjoyed Ayn Rand as a kid, the right wing turned her into a god to justify their narcissism.
I’ve never heard of or read her books, apparently she was philosopher aka bullshit artist, not into this kind., but I’ll try to have a look-https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/572
No one owes you anything. The sooner that you come to terms with that fact, the sooner that you can get down to the very important business of kicking life squarely in the teeth.
In the Washington Post yesterday, Catherine Rampell noted that Republicans’ claim that extending Trump tax cuts isn’t extraordinarily expensive means “getting rid of math.”
We don't live by that creed any longer. Didn't everyone get the memo? 'Thou will enrich the shareholder, by any means necessary, including taking your Democracy away from you.'
It was Republican President Reagan who made health insurance companies for-profit operations in the US. Before him, they were nonprofit, as they should be.
Reagan was a lousy president. One big mistake Democrats still make is to let the myth that he was a good president continue instead of telling the truth.
What I think of as good is that he didn't show weakness to the Soviets which was the right path.
That's something I think he handled better than many modern western leaders.
I guess I'm a bit biased cause I mostly have grown up among spineless appeasers.
Most presidents after WWII & before Reagan showed strength in dealing with Russia.The difference was Gorbachev was amenable — interested in freeing Russia from the shackles of communism — & invited western capitalism into Russia. Putin, a former KGB spy, set Russia back to communism & dictatorship.
It was Nixon, actually. HMO Act of 1973. I used to have a copy of the magnetic tape recording of him talking about it with his advisor. The terrible irony is that he nearly vetoed it, but couldn't think of an excuse to give Congress, so he asked his advisor for his opinion.
"Edgar Kaiser is running his Permanente thing for profit, and the reason he can do it ... all the incentives are toward less medical care, because the less care they give them, the more money they make."
Nixon's reply: "Fine. Not bad." And then he signed it into law the next morning.
They knew. It was made explicit — it was a ripoff that was going to cost people their lives under the guise of extending medical care to those who otherwise couldn't afford it. They would cut corners to maximize profits, and thus cut years off of lives in the process.
Remember when the Republicans warned us of “Death Panels” from Obamacare? They said politicians would decide who got lifesaving care. What a relief that it’s politicians AND insurance companies deciding.
Privatized healthcare and private-run prisons are so insane. How private actors have been permitted to extract profit from 2 fundamental, essential services on which society depends will never make sense to me.
Never forget that a “doctor” at a private prison ICE facility in Georgia was known as the Uterus Collector for the large number of Hysterectomies he performed on immigrants held there. Google it for the details.
It is the free market! - free to take advantage of the vulnerable from what I've observed over the years. What we are seeing is what happens when choice is taken out of the equation - lousy outcomes for higher prices.
There is nothing free market with government mandated insurance. It's not the free market taking advantage of the vulnerable it's literally the government giving special privileges and tax payer money to corporations. What you are complaining about is government regulations.
Haha no. It's the free market. There's no government regulations telling United HealthCare to have a quarterly gross profit margin of 21.56%
There's no government regulations telling them to outsource denying claims to a company using AI.
It's CORPORATE GREED.
stop moving the goal post from "there is no government regulations" to "there is no government regulations to greed". corporations are created by government and suplimented by taxpayer money. Without government protection corporations wouldn't have so much power.
The black and grey market have always existed and as long as there are no snitches free people can get away with being free and having consensual relationships.
Actually, the commandment is "Thou shalt not murder." But I do agree in principle with your statement. That still doesn't make the shooter a hero, though, IMO.
Called, Blood Guilty murder. You didn't pull the trigger but didn't stop the murder from happening with the knowledge that death would definitely be the end result. "Accessory to Murder"
This faulty thinking is exactly the rationale Christians used to elect Trump. They wanted cruelty but didn't want to get their hands soiled. (So they actually read the Pontius Pilot part of the Bible.) They think their soul is still good with God, Donnie's not so much, but eh...
All the wealthy? Just the ones you personally feel got their wealth in inhumane ways? Does one angry get to decide? This is a really, really scary philosophy if we want to live in a society and not a war zone.
This is where we differ. I think of wealth as a tool--like a hammer--which can be wasted or used to build something that helps others. Most people have at least some wealth (i.e. possessions).The problem is when people make selfish or harmful choices, or when inequality is too great.
It's unconscionable that some people think the CEO's death has been more important & indicative of society breaking down than kids dying in school shootings, the police & civilian killings of Brown & Black people, & the deaths of millions at the hands of insurance co claims denials. #WTFIWWY
Thoughts and prayers to healthcare CEOs. I’ll say this, I’m not condoning murder by any means, but if the oligarchy and more CEOs are shot and killed, I bet we’d have actual gun reform
If you're not going to make a positive difference the right way, why try to make it at all? You'd just end up justifying wrong actions and enabling them for the future. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Do no harm also includes financial harm. For profit "healthcare" is the path to hell. “I have never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.” May those who profits from denying others health care receive the eternal judgment their actions in life have earned them.
I’m old enough to remember when Palin & other GOPers acted like Chicken Lil’s, whining about BO’s death panels killing off everyone’s grandmas if it didn’t make economic sense to keep them alive.
Apparently GOP hypocrites don’t care about CORPS denying benefits if it doesn’t help profit margins!
Forgive them oh Lord, they know not what they do. Yes I read the Bible, as an atheist, it taught me nothing but resilience, to support others, condone violence, BUT I HAVE BROKEN EVERY COMMANDMENT, but I know I ain't going to hell, too many people in heaven will speak for me, even my Russian granny.
Thou shalt not make life or death decisions on paper. So when 1,000s of Americans die before their time, because of neglect, WHO DECIDES TO KILL THE NARRATIVE, BEFORE DEATHS ARE STOPPED, SAID NOBODY, UNTIL A YOUNG BOY SMILED, TORTURED BY PAIN, REVENGE IS A CRUEL BUT JUST MASTER
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Real men let others die for profit and $10M per year plus bonus.
“What do you do?” a section of the notebook says.
https://marlowe1.substack.com/p/christmas-is-a-sad-season-for-the?utm_source=post-banner&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true
They don’t know what it is to live on the margin
Give Rudy Giuliani a cardboard box and a place on Skid Row. We can set them all up with a camera and people can watch his demise.
That’s marginal status and it ain’t no joke.
An legally excusable shooting?
Justified self-defense of others.
CEO Thompson is the most prolific mass murderer in US history. Like a concentration camp, UHC’s profit depended on the torture and agony (“life hours”) and deaths of condemned victims under their control.
Thousands saved.
Google Affluenza. "Too rich to go to prison"
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/ethan-couchs-affluenza-explainer/story?id=36011293
Life is all about choices and how these choices affect the world around us.
Choices have consequences.
#imnotsureifthatswhatitreallymeans
Always amazing how many developed countries have figured this out.
We should do better.
Telling others “ you just want to…” is weak tea.
And he insults real victims of lynching by not even knowing what it is.
“Defense of others” is not a “justified self-defense” but an “excusable” killing.
“You’re Goddamn Right.”
不可用經濟手段殺人
"Self-regulating free markets" is now the religion in the U.S.
Greenspan testimony to our senate after melting down the world economy in 2008.
He stated what many of us knew in 1980, "We were wrong about self-regulating free markets, we never considered the human factor".
I enjoyed Ayn Rand as a kid, the right wing turned her into a god to justify their narcissism.
That's something I think he handled better than many modern western leaders.
I guess I'm a bit biased cause I mostly have grown up among spineless appeasers.
The advisor was candid.
Nixon's reply: "Fine. Not bad." And then he signed it into law the next morning.
Nixon didn't care.
Their religious yet breaking all the commandments every day.
There's no government regulations telling them to outsource denying claims to a company using AI.
It's CORPORATE GREED.
Kenneth Arrow wrote a paper on why free markets would fail with health care.
If it's not regulated, it'll be gamed.
I do not mourn his death… think he gave a shit about all the lives he ruined?!? No fucking way!
Perfectly worded!
https://www.givesendgo.com/legalfund-ceo-shooting-suspect
If you're not going to make a positive difference the right way, why try to make it at all? You'd just end up justifying wrong actions and enabling them for the future. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Apparently GOP hypocrites don’t care about CORPS denying benefits if it doesn’t help profit margins!