The metformin could only take me so far. The Mounjaro in combination? I believe it has also slowed the nerve damage I started getting a decade before I was a diabetic (a1c was always 'normal' until 4 years ago).
It's also greatly helped my triglycerides and cholesterol get to normal ranges.
I feel better than I used to before I had it, when it was metformin only. I don't spike when I do eat something with bread in it, I can have a potato, I can have rice again, but I did have to sacrifice cheese.
Dunno why but the Mounjaro did kill my ability to digest cheese...
And they shouldn't be because just the fact that a drug that turns off hunger receptors in the brain so successfully helps people achieve their health goals speaks volumes about obesity being a medical illness vs a lack of self control which is actually pretty refreshing for a change ✌️❤️
So I guess if someone is taking an antibiotic to fight an infection or chemo to fight cancer you'd be right there telling them to just rub some dirt on it and walk it off, right?
Im still concerned what's going to happen to folks using it 20+ years from now. If it sounds too good to be true, it almost always is one way or another.
I'm old enough to remember them saying the same thing about oxycontin. It's non-addictive. It's the pain relief solution we've been waiting centuries for. It's proven safe and non-addictive in years of clinical trials.
Wasn’t that because the makers of OxyContin hid the data showing addiction?
I suppose one could say data is being hidden with GLP-1s, but so far the data on its benefits- well beyond weight loss- are quite impressive…
I hope you're right. Frankly, I don't trust pharmaceutical companies or advocacy doctors as far as I can pick them up and throw them. These are people well know to fabricate data and outright lie. For 30 years they swore smoking posed no adverse effects. Again,look how that turned out.
I know, but that was a long time ago ( smoking). I used to question docs too once. No more( after experiencing the intense grifting/ no real knowledge in the wellness world.) At some point I hope you find a good doc- in a group never solo.
I'll talk about it. You wont lose weight without eating less calories. GLP1 helps eat less. You still need to exercise and eat healthy or it's not gonna do shit.
Not exactly true. I have not exercised or changed my diet (other than just eating a lot less) and have lost over 60 pounds in less than a year. I'm not saying a healthy diet and exercise aren't important, but this drug makes you lose even without lifestyle changes. Plan on exercising after tkr.
Because the same result could be achieved without medication using just a little willpower. But it's easier to take a shortcut rather than actually making an effort. It's just plain lazy. It's like using AI to write a term paper.
Lots of research on obesity would refute that all that is needed is “just a little willpower.” And neuroscience is starting to make mincemeat around the entire concept of willpower… it’s all biology…
Yep! Even folks that lose weight w/o drug or surgical intervention often rebound. It’s important to learn and practice healthy habits, such as with eating an exercise, but there is no one universal solution. Not everyone may need medication to sustain weight loss, but if they do that’s valid too.
It’s safer on the knees to work out and run if you’ve already lost weight.
You can exercise on ozempic. Exercise and ozempic are *not* mutually exclusive. Turning in assignments you didn’t write and education are mutually exclusive.
You understand people lost weight without this stuff, before it was made widely available, right? It's not necessary. It wasn't even designed for this purpose.
Same. It's helping me keep my A1C in check. But every time someone finds out I'm on it, they assume it's just for weight loss. Please, I have chemo helping me lose weight. I don't need Ozempic for that. 🤣
No that's very much my point. If a shitty American who thinks that fatness means you're bad hears you're on GLP-1 medication there's a decent chance they'll start judging you for "cheating" whether you're taking it for diabetes, weight loss, or something else. A lot of them just cruelty assign a
Moral value to anything they think is related to being fat and are totally indifferent about biomedicine. Like they're just jerks, and it's often easier to keep it to yourself than have some jerk glaring at you because they decided you're bad the second they heard "Ozempic" or "Wegovy".
Exactly! Bill Maher, who loves to shame fat people, had fitness expert Jillian Michaels on his show, and the two of them blasted this weight loss drug without knowing anything about it.
Yup. What they said was, "we're concerned about your health," but what they meant was, "being 'fat' is a moral failure and you should suffer, toil, and feel deprived of nourishment in order to lose weight because thinness is a virtue"
It is used by real
Diabetics and does control blood sugar
It has shown to help folks manage alcohol and substance abuse but it’s so stigmatized because of Drake😀
First 4 months Ozempic worked great for me, I dropped 30 pounds, then it started to make me throw up, so I had to stop taking it. Then I gained 50 pounds because once you get off of it you are starving all the time.
I use Monjouro and so far no side effects, I know I am losing some weight
I really want studies on addiction. It totally shuts your brain up! I belive it could totally be so useful in addiction therapy. Anxiety and ADHD too. It shuts that stupid brain UP!
They'll start using it as such; I'm confident. Docs with zero typical support of quick loss meds are seeing addiction promise and the antiinflammatory plus. 🤞
Our cave brains are not all capable of modern day stress. Unfortunately or not, meds help us feel more evolved.
I talk about it all the time. Like I did with my breast cancer diagnosis and treatment. Trying in my small way to destigmatize these things. I’ve tried to lose weight dozens of times with varying levels of success until GLP-1s came along. I’ve lost almost 50 pounds and am a couple away from my goal
I’m on Wegovy. I tell everyone I know, lol. For me, it’s more that it shuts down the food noise. I think about food the way an alcoholic thinks about drinking. This drug quiets that, and I think people really don’t understand that for many people weight management is not about will power.
I'm waiting for almost 8 months for my weight loss programme in the UK and I'm not even guaranteed that I'll get a prescription for wegowy or something similar when I get there, but if I do get it I'll post about my experience. But many people are mad about it and tell me just don't eat burgers.
As a person that lived through the 80s my experience taught me that drugs wear off eventually but some of the side effects can be costly. Diet and exercise seems to work better in the end.
That and meditation.
Lots of meditation 🤓
These drugs are categorically different than things like phenfen, in terms of their metabolic effects it's actually treating the underlying cause (certain receptors in the gut and brain that obese people have more of, and insulin/leptin resistance.)
I tried it, but it had a horrible side effect for me I just couldn’t live with (and almost died because of it). My gerd got so bad, I was spontaneously vomiting, even in my sleep. That’s the part where I almost died, by aspirating vomit!
it must be like botox they know it's poison they know they are going to cut their life by yrs and have hideous complications.
also i'm going to be crude they'd be on the toilet a lot. probably why noone says anything.
These drugs have been proven to reduce the number of heart attacks and strokes, reverse diabetes for many, improve osteoarthritis and kidney disease. They will help people live longer.
This sort of comment is actually why they say nothing.
no of course not but you have to admit some do. they look sucken in.
i don't want to hurt you or be mean so have a wonderful beautiful day and kudos to both our freedom of speech.
I'm sure to those people who look "sunken in" (and that's generally temporary, but nothing is more youthecizing than fat. What you're seeing is just ageing), a bit of sunken in beats needing a knee replacement or daily insulin or having a heart attack or getting colon cancer... all obesity compixns.
My tongue was somewhat in my cheek... but there was a period of about a year when I couldn't get Ozempic because of shortages caused by weight loss users. Also, are you saying I caused my diabetes? There's a strong genetic component there - as there is with obesity.
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The diabetes is currently under control to such a degree I've gotten the A1C below 4.5 from a high near 9.
Side effects are hard, but I'm going to live longer because of both meds.
It's also greatly helped my triglycerides and cholesterol get to normal ranges.
Dunno why but the Mounjaro did kill my ability to digest cheese...
I do miss cheese.
Just saying. I’ll talk about it.
Ozempic outputs health. A lot of the time.
Who cares how they get there when the end product is health?
I'm not saying that never happens, but you using that scenario to be a dick towards people that are trying to get healthy is just stupid.
Yeah. Look how that turned out.
I suppose one could say data is being hidden with GLP-1s, but so far the data on its benefits- well beyond weight loss- are quite impressive…
Mostly just find people being shitty about it instead.
It’s safer on the knees to work out and run if you’ve already lost weight.
You can exercise on ozempic. Exercise and ozempic are *not* mutually exclusive. Turning in assignments you didn’t write and education are mutually exclusive.
Care to guess why?
All the talk of, "We're just concerned for your health." evaporates in the face of a truly easy weight loss solution.
What they meant all along was, "You should suffer for being fat."
stop and consider it. You may be right.
Diabetics and does control blood sugar
It has shown to help folks manage alcohol and substance abuse but it’s so stigmatized because of Drake😀
I use Monjouro and so far no side effects, I know I am losing some weight
America sucks.
Our cave brains are not all capable of modern day stress. Unfortunately or not, meds help us feel more evolved.
Meth works better,..anyway.
That and meditation.
Lots of meditation 🤓
Diet and exercise is what they *enable.*
The shot tripled my best natural results in under 8 months
I hope more folks get access to some version of the shot
Epilepsy meds aren't optional, sadly.
also i'm going to be crude they'd be on the toilet a lot. probably why noone says anything.
This sort of comment is actually why they say nothing.
i don't want to hurt you or be mean so have a wonderful beautiful day and kudos to both our freedom of speech.
Using ozempic:"cheating" "lazy way"
People end up healthier in large numbers. Improving society
Education: college shouldn't be free people need to "work harder" "don't be lazy"
People end up highly educated in larger numbers, improving society
Pattern?
Preventative medicine isn't tourism.