Get a first look at Combat Assistant in Patch 11.1.7 and a discussion about combat add-ons in World of Warcraft. See the latest WoWCast with Dratnos, Maximum & Ion Hazzikostas! Watch now: https://blizz.ly/4jx1HS5 - ThreadSky

worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com • 23 days ago

Get a first look at Combat Assistant in Patch 11.1.7 and a discussion about combat add-ons in World of Warcraft.

See the latest WoWCast with Dratnos, Maximum & Ion Hazzikostas!

Watch now: https://blizz.ly/4jx1HS5

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jezibelle.bsky.social•23 days ago

Fuck it, I've got Hekili and several WAs and I'm*still* parsing gray. On a RET PALADIN.

I might as well just use the DPS button and focus on my mechanics.

yaboyscamper.bsky.social•23 days ago

This was interesting! Addons have been one of my favorite aspects of WoW, and I do agree that some WAs are too powerful. It’s interesting to hear how it impacts design decisions, and I’m curious to see how this all plays out!

cyclopsnerd.bsky.social•23 days ago

I don't think many people are thinking of it as one, but the one button rotation is genuinely such a huge accessibility feature. This is really cool.

omedon.bsky.social•23 days ago

He does mention accessibility, and yes this is huge for that!

(Also console integration, but I don't know if that gets mentioned I'm only a couple minutes in and pausing to cheer with friends haha)

cyclopsnerd.bsky.social•23 days ago

Oop- missed that, thank you! Very excited for this.

dblanch369.bsky.social•23 days ago

Addons are the strength of this game, not a weakness. We don’t want this to turn into FF XIV

atelierbagur.bsky.social•23 days ago

You got that wrong, we want the addons that people have been using be native in the game. Its dumb having to go out if your way to download something to play the game at a basic level. FFXIV's issue is that they rarely ever address or implement popular addons into their game.

This is a huge win.

dblanch369.bsky.social•23 days ago

It wouldn’t be so made if Blizzards attempt at replacing addons did not have a history of sucking ass.

atelierbagur.bsky.social•23 days ago

list some examples since I may be lost here.

All I can go off is from playing Classic was their native questing feature that replaced Questie in Cata, the LFG finder tool that replaced the Bulletin addon, visual Button Proc that replaced the addon from Wrath and the Edit Mode

dblanch369.bsky.social•23 days ago

Edit mode for Retail did improve things a lot, but is still lacking when compared to ElvUI, which it looks like they were trying to mimic. So I still use ElvUI. The new Cooldown manager is very much maligned. I turned it off and went back to using OmniCD.

atelierbagur.bsky.social•23 days ago

They're improving on it though. Also not everyone likes ElvUI; me included (the aesthetic and design is too flat and boring imo) so the Edit Mode is a welcome feature.

Like I said, the less reliance of addons the better

atelierbagur.bsky.social•23 days ago

All I know is that Blizz has been doing it for years. Slowly for sure but we definitely need the developers to work their UI, so trying to say that "nobody asked for this" is foolish imo.

Its a necessity, especially if you want the game to grow and get better.

dblanch369.bsky.social•23 days ago

It’s not that foolish when the quality of the releases looks like it hasn’t been QA/QC. I’d like to not have to deal with all the broken stuff first. Sucks the enjoyment out. I do love the Undermine content though, so that’s a plus.

dblanch369.bsky.social•23 days ago

I don’t know that anybody is asking for this….

grinlearns2draw.bsky.social•22 days ago

There are alot of people asking for that. But in my opinion they Ask for the wrong Thing. Instead they should Ask why certain addons or war's are necessary to Play the Game.

chouette.bsky.social•23 days ago

I’m excited! I love playing with minimal addons. This is perfect for my alts!

blazejwiecha.github.io•23 days ago

Still addon is better than this one.

omedon.bsky.social•23 days ago

NATIVE
DAMAGE
METERS

CONFIRMED

I generally hate damage meters and I just don't care enough to get mad here, but this will be such a big "bury the lede" point, calling it now. Happy people will have one less "mandatory addon" to maintain. WoW is now "play with friends or play alone." This is fine.

omedon.bsky.social•23 days ago

Fascinated by Ion going deep on encounter design, wanting more co-ordination mechanics, less "progressing a weakaura," and I remember Preach talking about how Gallywix was too easy. Maybe that's the price. Maybe "human fights solved by humans" are just easier. I think we need to be ok with that.

omedon.bsky.social•23 days ago

YES YES YES! ONE BUTTON ROTATION ASSIST LET'S GO!

The more we are given the game to play as individuals on our own time (delves, follower dungeons) the more "did you do the button dance good enough" among randos should matter! Just let everyone be "good enough" on their own time or among friends!

dougiefresh83.bsky.social•23 days ago

This "rotation-helper" feature seems like it would be great for console players 👀 😉

vertegras.bsky.social•23 days ago

Another QoL change that pushes that envelope ever so slightly. I'd wager it is definitely coming.

janiah.bsky.social•23 days ago

Been using Vuhdo with tracking specific debuffs and color coding for M+, as well as a WeakAura to show if non-tanks have aggro for BOP, I really don't expect built in stuff to replace that or other stuff I may end up needing. Not keen in losing the ability to customize like that because of raiders.

novowels.com•23 days ago

Love Hekili when I am learning a new alt, this is a great addition.

itsbrou.bsky.social•22 days ago

Exclusive preview of WoW licensed gaming controller after 11.1.7:

robtroost.bsky.social•23 days ago

The Hekili addition to the default UI is something I never would have expected and feels like a band-aid for a problem that can actually be solved by reducing the complexity of classes.

(Bluesky charachter limit is realy low..)

robtroost.bsky.social•23 days ago

As someone who LOVES every single class (most of them are really at an all-time best class-fantasy wise) and plays all of them regularly, having to read a guide for each of them each patch, figuring out talents, complex rotations, setting up the UI with new WA's, is just an insane amount of work.

robtroost.bsky.social•23 days ago

As healer these days, I'm just so stressed having to look at my blinking action bars, unit frames, WA's, DBM timers, and the actual fight for my positioning and that of others in case I need to Leap of Faith someone. It's cognitive overload.

robtroost.bsky.social•23 days ago

And the amount of spells the Cooldown Tracker tracks for some classes/specs even overflows into a second row (holy/disc priests), as opposed to some other classes that have way less.

robtroost.bsky.social•23 days ago

For DPS, I use Hekili for some classes but I'd really rather not have the game or an addon tell me what to press and when (same with spells that proc every few seconds). It takes away from being engaged in the actual fight that is shown behind all the UI elements.

thmar.bsky.social•23 days ago

Most rotations are not complex at all, but I agree that returning to the old talents system definitely made things ever more hard to grasp for beginners and casuals. I feel like most of the time, those talent trees are unnecessarily complex with plenty of cookie cutters.

thmar.bsky.social•23 days ago

Remember that those boring talents were the exact reason why they changed the whole system with MoP. At that time, we had much fewer, but more interesting and meaningful talent choices. Anyway, the rotation is not the core of the problem.

atelierbagur.bsky.social•23 days ago

I'm still waiting for actual controller support. I love Consoleport Addon and its been amazing and I wish Blizz would just do it officially where you have a whole custom menu UI and cross hotbar. Aka. replicate how FFXIV does controller support

ntys26.bsky.social•23 days ago

very cool format, hope to see more of these going forward with a rotation of community figures!

therealnzoth.bsky.social•23 days ago

DEAR BLIZZARD TEACH ME HOW TO NOT BE A BAD OUTLAW ROGUE

owler.bsky.social•23 days ago

they'd have to fix all the bugs before that xD

morisdreadvale.bsky.social•23 days ago

Yawn 🥱 can they talk about the 73731144546th Shadow Priest rework instead

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