Honestly, I prefer them untoasted. But also I'm not an idiot and worked out as a child how to put them in vertically mostly because of all the commercials and print ads SHOWING THEM COMING OUT OF TOASTERS. But also, hopefully because I understood as a kid how things, you know, work.
I don't understand the mechanics here
How do you insert anything horizontally in a toaster?
Are toasters in America different?
Please someone, my brain is hurting
i did this too, i understand vertical 'tarters but apparently nobody learned to cook them evenly (horizontally) and yank the toaster lever all the way up so they POP out the top
Pop-tarts are longer than they are wide. Inserting them "horizontally" means dropping them in the toaster slots long-side-horizontal ✉️ rather than long-side-vertical🃏, and they are not tall enough when laid on their long side to stick out when the toast-lifts are in the up/done position.
you know, all these assholes talked about how oh, food is boring and doesnt matter to me when "soylent" came out, but really it was that mommy and daddy's special little boy was never sat down and taught how to cook a meal for themselves.
Musk, Altman, et al can go to hell, but I feel like the anti-tech bro narrative around Soylent misses an important dimension: it’s not uncommon for ND folks to have serious issues with food, compounded by the fact that many common ADHD meds can severely affect appetite.
I feel like I wasn’t very direct last night, so to clarify:
Using Soylent to swipe at tech bros, though understandable, may have the side effect of stigmatizing meal replacements for some people who need them. Especially for those who don’t want to out themselves.
i think that's a fair point, but i also think i demarcated things effectively there a couple messages later. meal replacements are fabulous things when you need them. sometimes you do. there are lots of reasons to. it's that soylent was the COOL TECHBRO THING specifically.
This might not be the issue it was a few years ago, simply because Soylent is no longer in the public eye like it was a few years ago. Still, it’s not a great feeling.
Dunno. Maybe his initial confusion was why on earth anyone would eat something like that. Especially for breakfast.
But then, after this moment of clarity, continuing with it and doing it in such a bad way is the real bummer.
Maybe that's his normal modus operandi. Would explain so much.
The official biography he commissioned. Same source as the thing about him “winning” poker by going all in on every hand until everyone else let him win and the story about him deliberately trying to get into a car accident.
That's kind of the thing about a lot of people like Musk and Altman. They have *no idea* what normal looks like, so they mindlessly approve insane stories that make them look ridiculous because they're so removed from reality they can't tell what's weird and what's normal.
yeah, he probably thinks this humanizes him instead of making him seem like a dim-witted oaf who's so rich he's literally never been served food that wasn't already at the perfect temperature
Also can't assume every screenshot was sourced by the poster. Many aren't. And many gallery apps don't extract text.
It's great to include the extended text, but in that situation...one or the hypothetical other person will need to engage a 3rd party website/app, or dig up the source.
(Hey at least this has inspired me to finally pester the makers of my own gallery app to add OCR extraction. My native gallery doesn't have it, nor does the 3P one I replaced it with. Bad oversight.)
That would certainly be more accurate than saying "that's how you use it." The alt text provided is the bare minimum, even if it's not particularly helpful.
Sorry, I replied to you using more snark than I should. My point is : I'm perfectly okay coming off as condescending towards people who still do not get that alt text is for accessibility.
Other than that : I was perfectly respectful in my original message. Imo.
I assumed the visually impaired reader would read the post via narrator then the visual would need to be interpreted, so that the narrator could read that out too.
If you're correct then I'm happy to do less work!
Different people use different tools! I'm not an expert, I just think it's cool that on BS, we made huge strides in terms of number of people using alt correctly. Getting people to think in terms of access is a huge battle.
If I refer to the decision tree in the link you gave me : "there is text in the image and the text in the image is not present otherwise.
Use the alt attribute to include the text of the image". It seems logical to me.
I have already answered that. If the text is the relevant part yes. If it's not it's unnecessary detail and shouldn't be included.
It feels like you guys decided based on an interpretation on my first post that I'm here to be a nuisance. I'm not, I just want people to post good alts.
This seems like the sort of bumbling most of us do all the time. I'm over 50, can cook a roast dinner. Have never heated pop tarts. Did manage to spill apple juice everywhere due to an unfamiliar carton closure recently.
The Pop-Tart anecdote is from one of Musk’s colleagues, as related in space journalist Eric Berger’s book Liftoff: Elon Musk and the Desperate Early Days That Launched SpaceX.
The mess hall for my early undergrad yrs (at a 'little Ivy') would, on weekend mornings, make Fried Dough.
Basically fluffy donuts but with no shape, so they were just big irregular Hunks of Goodness, rolled in generous amounts of cinnamon and sugar. Piping hot. Laid out on trays. Food of the gods.
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How do you insert anything horizontally in a toaster?
Are toasters in America different?
Please someone, my brain is hurting
I only know about them from cultural osmosis
Thank you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0r9A-fetqE
Using Soylent to swipe at tech bros, though understandable, may have the side effect of stigmatizing meal replacements for some people who need them. Especially for those who don’t want to out themselves.
Also, have you ever tried toasting frozen Uncrustables? You also need tongs to retrieve them.
But then, after this moment of clarity, continuing with it and doing it in such a bad way is the real bummer.
Maybe that's his normal modus operandi. Would explain so much.
Something like "For text images, it's best to just copy and paste for the alt text" would be better, imo.
It's great to include the extended text, but in that situation...one or the hypothetical other person will need to engage a 3rd party website/app, or dig up the source.
Alt-text is for people using screen readers to be included in conversation, not left out as they are so often.
Other than that : I was perfectly respectful in my original message. Imo.
If you're correct then I'm happy to do less work!
In fact, sometimes it's better to leave the alt properly *blank*.
https://www.w3.org/WAI/alt/
Use the alt attribute to include the text of the image". It seems logical to me.
It feels like you guys decided based on an interpretation on my first post that I'm here to be a nuisance. I'm not, I just want people to post good alts.
Change your approach in the future. Perhaps you'll get a different response.
Basically fluffy donuts but with no shape, so they were just big irregular Hunks of Goodness, rolled in generous amounts of cinnamon and sugar. Piping hot. Laid out on trays. Food of the gods.
He looked like C. Montgomery Burns when he was in his 20s, then he turned into the Lard Lad, and now he looks like Dr. Alphonse Mephesto.