Democrats need something or someone they can build their political infrastructure around. Jon, @jonlovett.bsky.social and @jonfavs.bsky.social on the power and messaging vacuum among Dems. @crooked.com @podsaveamerica.crooked.com
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This is a great listen. I appreciate thoughtful discussions about where our party needs to go while reckoning with the mistakes of 2024. Imagine if Republicans were the same.
I reject this premise. They shouldn’t change what they stand for. They need as a collective group to grow a backbone. Be forceful, be unapologetic. Push back. Project strength. We need dozens of leaders like this. Not just one guy.
This popped up in my Discovery feed. Holy shit. Jon Stewart and the Obama Bros. Complaining about Democrats. What a bunch of tools. Important things are happening. You're either willfully ignorant or so self-important you can't see straight.
Good stuff. Elected officials who truly want to be effective need to park the suit and tie, robotic, polite, inside voices, demeanor and speak with from the gut. The rest will come naturally. It's easy to be prepared when it's something you know through and through.
Democrats are not sheep like the cultish, brainwashed Repugs.
The problem we have is that the cult agrees with the Democrats on almost all the actual issues, especially the economic ones. How does truth stand a fighting chance against brainwashing?
RE the debate, Biden came to debate policies, Trump came to LIE. When you have a man filled with honor & integrity, advocating for Americans & the moderators/“journalist” failed to protect the truth, B was flabbergasted & got tongue tied at the amount of lies FULL STOP. Bash & Tapper are a disgrace.
Not to mention he was under the weather and has a speech impediment. He is not articulate nor is he a skillful orator. But he worked hard and never had a day of peace. Even out of office those rabid MAGA lower life forms, led by traitor Trump, stirs them up w bs allegations against President Biden
Whatever they do, it needs to be united. The right is always united. GOP senators go on record saying they disagree and still vote on party lines. Democrats are constantly arguing over how "left" they are. Enough! Unite, already!
Jon, I would love to subscribe to your you tube Pod Save America and World but I got kicked off you tube for putting a link for impeaching tRUMP. So if someone on your team could help me get back on you tube then I could subscribe to both! Love your shows!
These 2 just talk. Now in 28 they’ll be looking at who spoke ab Biden early. Then admit they were purposely not saying anything either to not hurt B’s chances. They just say whatever makes them sound good in the moment. If you listen to their podcast - they contradict themselves every few weeks.
Where are the young democrats who want to fight, and who want to make a difference in congress? I’ll donate. You don’t have to be a millionaire to run. Ask AOC. But you can’t complain about seniors setting the agenda and the rich making decisions if you aren’t in the fight
AOC and David Hogg getting visibly shafted by the DNC when they try to make a difference speaks volumes about how much the DNC will resist necessary change.
AOC I agree on. Hogg? In a country where Nazis are marching, Trump got legitimately elected, Elon threw a sieg heil at the inauguration, rednecks are murdering queers, and the Navy just took Harriet Tubman's name off a Navy vessel, the last thing I will ever do is give up my right to bear arms.
Only took me about 5 minutes to turn this off. you guys want to have a good time bashing on Biden as he did all kinds of good things for a country have at it. you sound like morons and it's very disappointing esp you Stewart the Pod save America guys I've concluded I don't want to hear anymore
AOC, Jasmine Crockett, Pete Buttigieg, Katie Porter - all STRONG, SMART, COMPASSIONATE PROGRESSIVE
Candidates - and yet mainstream Dems do not value them as they should. It’s a low down crying shame, as people like these are the future for the liberal party.
If the do nothing dems (who I have voted for every election of my life) were remotely smart they would rally behind Bernie and AOC. And the messaging would be simple. People not profits.
Hey Jon, don’t we have to first figure out what the effective messaging is against this bullshit cult machine? Hoping a singular person will save the left is like believing Trump invented his movement. Fox News and AM radio spent decades selling the bit. The left doesn’t even know what their bit is
Saw it on Youtube. Cool episode. When are people picking up on my idea to have the Senate give tax breaks to poor and middle class people instead of billionaires?
I have been working with our local DNC the possibility of running for office locally, what I have realized is that they do not want change. They continue to stand in the way of progress. Additionally, they are terrible with relationship building and are not allowing room for new and young voices.
You are right! It’s so obvious, marginalizing their own youthful voices (and Bernie) who consistently get public traction. It’s 1 of 2 things: stupidity, or the Dems are actually in agreement with the Reps. Pay attention to their actions not their words!
I loved the comparison of Trump to Pennywise in the sewer. Should use it for new slogan. “Republicans, stop peeking at Pennywise in the sewer. Someone will push you down there.”
I’m sorry but this episode was just three white liberal dudes ceding ground on immigration policy to republicans then complaining about democrats being spineless…
like every now and then Jon brings up the idea that democrats should acknowledge there are "problems with the border" and there should be a "law and order" progressive movement even though study after study shows immigrants commit less crime than citizens that it's pretty infuriating listening to it
The one thing you never include in your interviews Jon when you sincerely ask why labor can't get in on the capital power gravy train in America, is the corruption of big money in politics. Its key! You should bring on people with ideas about achieving it sometime, really! They serve big money.
There are four messengers:
Crockett
Bernie
AOC
Raskin.
Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries and Ken Martin (DNC leader) need to retire along with every member of Congress over age 70 except for Bernie.
Any member who is afraid of MAGA also needs to go.
This is war.
Fighting back now with guns is exactly what Trump wants, violence. He wants that martial law by any means necessary. The key is to make his side blink. Patience is the goal. As it stands right now most Americans are content, they need to be uncomfortable for this to work
You seem to have mistaken my Constitutional right to self-defense with some sort of idiot march to violence. I am a man of peace, but I will defend myself and my family.
Also, I survived Trump last time. I will survive him this time.
The real question you should be asking yourself is WHY Trump won - why your Democratic Party could not muster the votes needed to defeat a felon, a con man, a collaborator with the Russian mafia for decades, and a fascist.
Hint: It's not because the Dems are doing a good job.
Hogg's point is to remind the Democrats in general who are just sitting around believing they are "safe" believing they're not going to be re-elected is to put them on primaries. Right now they're not marching because of those Democrats sitting around doing nothing. That's the point.
Nobody's talking about that. Besides the Republicans going to take away your right to bear arms long before he ever does. The whole system needs to be burnt down. But stay your arms a wait
I remember when you fought for our vets. Everyone rallied around you. You informed us. We need another MLK. someone that will fight for us and with us. To rally us.
One big help would be stop with calling government agencies by their initials and use the full name as they are attacked the general public will know what that agency is and how it might affect them.
In 2019 I started volunteering for the Dems. The ground floor was really weak. The volunteer supervisor thought it was funny when volunteers would buy her dinner, it was like a game to her. I brought food one time, but not for her. You need to respect people.
Democrats need people who are genuine, not just crunching numbers and saying what they think people want to hear. Trump gets more respect from the voters because even though he’s a genuine asshole, he’s still genuine.
They should look to people like AOC, Jasmine Crockett, Eric Swalwell...they have proven their intelligence, their live of freedom & Democracy, the Rule of Law and the Constitution...AND HAVE THE FIGHT IN THE THEM that WTP want to see
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The problem we have is that the cult agrees with the Democrats on almost all the actual issues, especially the economic ones. How does truth stand a fighting chance against brainwashing?
We need a cult deprogrammer, not a cult leader.
like Jon talked about in fucking 2004 on C-Span
(Somewhere pretty deep in)
https://youtu.be/Sw5hKBS7Q7g?si=4fQQWlBDM_KR_5e-
Candidates - and yet mainstream Dems do not value them as they should. It’s a low down crying shame, as people like these are the future for the liberal party.
Every right wing fever dream accusation can be reframed and refuted by talking about common sense.
Kids getting surgery in school? Common sense.
747s gifted from foreign countries?
Common sense.
The GOP abandoned common sense for Trump. It’s there to take.
It's not because they're dumb; it's because they're viciously greedy and corrupt themselves.
Why wait?
Dems are just gonna keep on Dem-ing😒
Some things must be outside of the for-profit system!
Healthcare
Public Education
Prisons
Mail delivery
Politics/Elections
Social Housing Options
Water & Power
Broadband
News
Public Transportation
More
The public good!
The public commons!
Crockett
Bernie
AOC
Raskin.
Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries and Ken Martin (DNC leader) need to retire along with every member of Congress over age 70 except for Bernie.
Any member who is afraid of MAGA also needs to go.
This is war.
Also, I survived Trump last time. I will survive him this time.
Hint: It's not because the Dems are doing a good job.
That being said - I will never vote for David Hogg. Never, ever ever. Nor will I give up my right to bear arms.
“you don't even realize how horrible something is until it happens to you” ~ Reese
People change their minds about Gun Control, Abortion, Healthcare, Immigration, FEMA, Gay Marriage only when THEY are adversely impacted.
#Me.Not.Us
Jons for the win!