Yeah! And the DNC thinks they need to move more towards the center? 🤦🏼‍♂️ cc @kenmartin.bsky.social - ThreadSky

moved2italy.bsky.social • 92 days ago

Yeah! And the DNC thinks they need to move more towards the center? 🤦🏼‍♂️

cc @kenmartin.bsky.social

Reposted from Haters_gonna_hate (Princess Kim K)

Look at this crowd for AOC and Bernie tonight! 👇👇

Comments

Y'all still think Bernie can win yet in the same breath scream "NO MORE RICH OLD WHITE MEN"! Stop with the bullshit already. Y'all are sounding more and more hypocritical with each passing day.

moved2italy.bsky.social•92 days ago

I didn’t say Bernie can win. I think his policies can win. Call me crazy but in the end I think it’s a messenging problem. If tRvmp and his Repuglicans could sell the Nation Fascism & Oligarchy (and let’s face it, that’s what they’ve done) then the next generation of Dem politicians just needs…

moved2italy.bsky.social•92 days ago

… to take Socialism and dress it up to look more ‘Murican! 😏

dovakin54.bsky.social•91 days ago

I get what you're saying but the type of socialism won't work in this century. No matter how you 'Muricanize' it. Besides. Having huge crowds doesn't mean anything if they don't vote

greatpretender.bsky.social•92 days ago

Yes, they still are right. Elections are decided by the undecided who in your last election decided Dems were too left of center. Have highest regard for these two people but they are unlikely to snift enough undecideds unless Trump collapses economy.

sweetgrandmajan.bsky.social•91 days ago

Democrats were mostly right-center, that's why they lost. It feels that nobody cares for poor and old.

johnperschino.bsky.social•91 days ago

If they lost fair and square, the messaging was the issue. Most of the campaign focused on how bad trump was instead of what they could or would do.

Not my words, but the words of those I’ve spoken with who sat out the election. From different parts of the country and some never trumpers.

sweetgrandmajan.bsky.social•91 days ago

My opinion: democrats didn't talk enough about what the fascist will do with project 25. They were not able to explain their plan for education, healthcare, social security, kids hunger.....

greatpretender.bsky.social•91 days ago

Nor didn't they talk about deindustrialization. Though that's being caught in a cleft stick. The Republicans offer snake oil solutions. I think the broken promise of blue collar jobs has been key to your last three elections.

johnperschino.bsky.social•91 days ago

They did nothing but talk about it. They never revealed any plans for housing other than the $25k for new home buyers. <2% of homebuyers are new. The reality is corporations buying single family homes needs to be illegal, but that would’ve stepped on donor toes. Out of Touch completely

sweetgrandmajan.bsky.social•91 days ago

True.

johnperschino.bsky.social•91 days ago

Add to that the evangelical voters who bought the assassination attempt as real and believed he was miraculously saved by God. Sexism was the one reason many who stayed home will never admit to.

sweetgrandmajan.bsky.social•91 days ago

Agree, evangenitals played a big role in degrading women rights. And democrats are afraid to attack religious freaks terrorists.

johnperschino.bsky.social•91 days ago

They are clueless. They are totally out of touch with the reality regular folks live with every day.

greatpretender.bsky.social•91 days ago

And racism?

johnperschino.bsky.social•91 days ago

True, they shake their head at that, too.

moved2italy.bsky.social•91 days ago

Here’s where I’m going to politely disagree. And I’m not alone. Many pundits whose opinions I respect feel that it was precisely the Dems move toward the center and the “never Trump” Republicans that alienated voters. Read this please and then come back to me!

https://jacobin.com/2025/01/biden-trump-democrats-dealignment-bush

greatpretender.bsky.social•91 days ago

Always remember the heart too late!

greatpretender.bsky.social•91 days ago

Thank you very much for the article. There was a lot of truth in it. Can't really say much in this format. One thing though: was it Republicans or non-aligned voters whose vote increased to Trump. And how many Dems stayed home?

moved2italy.bsky.social•91 days ago

That was apparently the problem! For multiple reasons, many Democrats failed to go vote. Disenchantment with the party, the cost of living, the war in Gaza. Perhaps because of the ongoing peace talks, Harris avoided this issue but she might have done better to distance

https://theweek.com/politics/democratic-voters-turnout-presidential-election-2024-trump-independents-liberal-messaging

greatpretender.bsky.social•91 days ago

Then they are the ones I blame for the current disaster. In their quest for perfection, they brought about evil.

moved2italy.bsky.social•91 days ago

…herself from Biden’s hawkish position and unconditional support of Israel as they blithely committed genocide. It wasn’t a good look. On other issues on which Biden had made huge strides; the economy, infrastructure, job creation, I thought she should have lauded their administration tbh but…

greatpretender.bsky.social•91 days ago

Yet Trump has done so much more than Biden to give Israel a free hand, as was inevitable.

moved2italy.bsky.social•91 days ago

…it seems that her campaign advisors were giving her bad advice that she took. This is also why many Dems are calling for more grassroots, younger, local and state activism. Democrats need to get out of Washington and back into the streets and urban areas especially! 🤷‍♂️

Comments

Posting Rules

Reply