Israel severely weakened safeguards meant to protect civilians to make it easier to strike Gaza in the weeks after Hamas’s Oct. 7 attack, unleashing one of the deadliest bombing campaigns in modern warfare, a New York Times investigation found. nyti.ms/49XyoV2 - ThreadSky

nytimes.com • 139 days ago

Israel severely weakened safeguards meant to protect civilians to make it easier to strike Gaza in the weeks after Hamas’s Oct. 7 attack, unleashing one of the deadliest bombing campaigns in modern warfare, a New York Times investigation found. https://nyti.ms/49XyoV2

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raidpanda.bsky.social•139 days ago

Someday history will judge these crimes, those who helped, and those who chose to look the other way.

rizzleperizzle.bsky.social•139 days ago

Don't have the energy for this read right now. Just want to say I hope it includes the context that several if not all modern wars fought by democracies contain variations on this theme and that an excellent lesson for theocrats to take from Gaza is to not start shooting wars against democracies :-\

brokenprime.bsky.social•139 days ago

I haven't finished it yet. But it does not. It does, however, (briefly) point out that they felt it was an existential threat and they were also going to be invaded from the North.

Somebody included a gift link below.

brokenprime.bsky.social•139 days ago

They also included this, which might satisfy you: "Unlike Hamas, which fires rockets indiscriminately at civilian areas, Israel and all Western armies operate under a multilayered oversight system that assesses the legality of planned strikes....

brokenprime.bsky.social•139 days ago

"...Each attack plan is usually meant to be analyzed by a group of officers, which often includes a military lawyer who can advise on whether strikes might be unnecessary or unlawful."

samaaraa.bsky.social•139 days ago

rizzleperizzle.bsky.social•139 days ago

I imagine many things are hard for those who mistake simple truths for idiocy 🤷

dixonmaiass.bsky.social•139 days ago

Simple solution: release all the hostages.

stalker6zauzich.bsky.social•139 days ago

?: It seemed like a deal to release the hostages that would have allowed Hamas to persist afterward was available and rejected. Israel prioritised the total destruction of Hamas above securing the hostages. Fair?

dixonmaiass.bsky.social•139 days ago

It seems like Islamic terrorists should have never started a war they were certain to lose, playing the victim all the while. It seems they should simply release the hostages. Fair?

stalker6zauzich.bsky.social•139 days ago

Yes. Do you think Hamas unilaterally releasing the hostages with no agreement in the days after Oct7 it would have arrested the retaliatory campaign? I don't think so. It may have changed international perception sooner but Bidens unwavering support would mean not much different for Gazan civilians.

dixonmaiass.bsky.social•139 days ago

Yes.

stalker6zauzich.bsky.social•139 days ago

Well I asked a question and then made a statement contra to an affirmative answer, so I'm not sure which you are saying yes to, but also maybe it does not matter. I hope for the release of the hostages and the safety of civilians. Peace.

capopp.bsky.social•139 days ago

Israeli newspapers already reported this, only they cited a higher number of allowed civilian deaths (35 per strike) and made it clear that Israel used AI to vet the target lists instead of humans, so they could vastly speed up the bombing rate.

capopp.bsky.social•139 days ago

But what you should report on is what those numbers mean. The targeting criteria used, which was essentially every Hamas member, including those involved in civilian administration, along with every member of the other militias.

capopp.bsky.social•139 days ago

That is 50-100k individuals. Simple math shows that the Israeli military was willing to risk the lives of most of the people in Gaza (~2.2m people).

20 killed per strike is no restriction at all. If a squad of guys is occupying a city block you can level the whole block.

fibredissent.bsky.social•139 days ago

Why do you say „was“? The slaughter is still going on.

saltykat.bsky.social•139 days ago

No surprises here.

hedge76.bsky.social•139 days ago

Netanyahu and his entire regime should be held to full account for this. They won’t be, though. The best chance is via the EU, which is now the world’s leader of the free world.

paulbarbour.bsky.social•139 days ago

100% - this is THE moment for the EU to step up, given USA will be backing Russia, Israel and various other awful regimes. Will they do it though? With Orban, Fico etc.

hedge76.bsky.social•139 days ago

The EU needs to make sure those Trump-esque jackasses stay marginalised

grandmacathy1.bsky.social•139 days ago

Such an awful war, all around.

zelenooq.bsky.social•139 days ago

Fascist Israel scums

dcmatt1.bsky.social•139 days ago

The framing of this is problematic, but it is still an indictment of Israel. Things are actually far worse than it suggests. And while the IDF did tighten rules of engagement, they have since been loosened again. Read this: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-12-18/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-soldiers-expose-arbitrary-killings-and-rampant-lawlessness-in-gazas-netzarim-corridor/00000193-da7f-de86-a9f3-fefff2e50000

erics2001.bsky.social•139 days ago

Israel is a terrorist state

heymrwilson1.bsky.social•139 days ago

It should read: ...unleashing one of the deadliest bombing campaigns in modern genocide.

blackwatertvreborn.bsky.social•139 days ago

Remember when Israel stopped bombing Gaza for about a week or so, and 100 hostages were able to be located found and returned home?

Stop bombing=Get hostages back or in this case get their bodies back.

dabxdee.bsky.social•139 days ago

American taxpayer funded genocide, but no money for Americans...

riddim-dad.bsky.social•139 days ago

Oh now you wanna report on this?

donch-eadle.bsky.social•139 days ago

No shit

micahelohim.bsky.social•139 days ago

Speaking for itself.

rcalvert.bsky.social•139 days ago

aka genocide

kanetewaa.bsky.social•138 days ago

Let's not forget that part

jimskea.bsky.social•139 days ago

The piece seems to be missing the word "genocide".

morrowjamesadam.bsky.social•139 days ago

"has not previously
been reported" 🙄

‘A mass assassination factory’:
Inside Israel’s calculated
bombing of Gaza
| @972mag-rss.bsky.social (11/30/23)
https://www.972mag.com/mass-assassination-factory-israel-calculated-bombing-gaza/

willnewcomb.bsky.social•139 days ago

Israel... Evil

nickdefab.bsky.social•139 days ago

Modern militaries always understate civilian casualties from bombing campaigns. Gaza is no different. It’s not just 50k killed; but now virtually every child has life long respiratory damage from silica dust and PTSD from trauma. Many will suffer developmental problems from malnutrition and disease

hermitthrush24.bsky.social•139 days ago

“One doctor from the U.K. described sniper drones firing on people as they tried to enter a hospital in Gaza city, where he was working. He told NPR he saw more than 20 injuries in one day from the drones, including one child shot in the neck, who later died.” https://www.npr.org/2024/11/19/nx-s1-5195171/witnesses-say-israel-is-using-sniper-drones-in-gaza-and-theyre-shooting-civilians

hermitthrush24.bsky.social•139 days ago

SMARTSHOOTER's website says it uses AI … to provide, quote, "one-shot, one-hit precision."
JAMES ROGERS: I would argue we're reaching a point where there are increasingly diminished human oversight over the practice of killing in war and also the decision-making process around who lives or dies.

dustinheron.bsky.social•139 days ago

Welcome to November 2023, NYT. You guys are going to be horrified when you catch up yo present day.

gioulbahar.bsky.social•139 days ago

No shit,Sherlock

kim-philby.bsky.social•138 days ago

Why does everyone see this war through some orientalist/imperial paradigm? Everyone who is actually involved in this war understands it as a religious conflict between Jews and Muslims over the holy land. The language (genocide/apartheid/etc.) only obscures the motivations of the warring parties.

klassmi.bsky.social•139 days ago

Finish the job, Israel 🇮🇱

fibredissent.bsky.social•139 days ago

To kill 2 million people is quite some work. Are there plans to cremate the corpses?

klassmi.bsky.social•139 days ago

I don’t think there are 2 million Iranian terrorists and their proxies, Marioneit 😸

fibredissent.bsky.social•139 days ago

Who cares if they are terrorists?

klassmi.bsky.social•139 days ago

Most of us.

fibredissent.bsky.social•138 days ago

Until now more than 60.000 people (rather more) have died in Gaza from bombs, illness, starvation, cold. Most of them women and children. This is definitely not about terrorism.

mitchsolomon.bsky.social•139 days ago

Hey cynics, don't go dunking on The New York Times when it actually does the journalism you demand of it (rightfully) all the time. This is a deeply examined, well documented and important story

mitchsolomon.bsky.social•139 days ago

If you need the article to read, here it is gifted because everyone should have an opportunity to do so https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/26/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-gaza-bombing.html?unlocked_article_code=1.kU4.rnaA.GpR9FnYPptgH&smid=url-share

brokenprime.bsky.social•139 days ago

📌

observer64.bsky.social•139 days ago

And Muslim-Americans voted for trump.

gsvid.bsky.social•139 days ago

You manufactured consent for this genocide idiots

marcelovelvet.bsky.social•139 days ago

Great article, but call things by their name: genocide.

alejandrosoberano.bsky.social•139 days ago

I am surprised by this comment. I do not judge the quality of the article. However, I see a contradiction: the article describes IDF adapted their rules of engagement but remained military-target focused with go / nogo deciders.

This is typical war method. Not genocide.

globehead.bsky.social•139 days ago

These rules lead to 3 escaped hostages being chased down and murdered while unarmed and waving a white shirt.

Stop defending genocide you freak.

alejandrosoberano.bsky.social•139 days ago

All I am saying is that we shouldn't mix war with other things. Any war is a human disaster. You mention friendly fire? Yes, it exists in every conflict.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_friendly_fire_incidents

But if you are military-driven you are not commiting a genocide. Ask NYT about the article...

globehead.bsky.social•139 days ago

I would say that hopefully one day your name is added to this list, but you're too much of a coward to ever fight or defend for anything.

alejandrosoberano.bsky.social•139 days ago

A death menace. Great.

globehead.bsky.social•139 days ago

What's military target driven about chasing down and murdering hostages?
What's military target driven about blowing up aid convoys?

You're a sick person.

alejandrosoberano.bsky.social•139 days ago

Last attempt.

Friendly fire exists in any war. I posted you a link that you have obviously not even openes. It has nothing to do with a genocide...

tauriq.bsky.social•139 days ago

Genocide is not determined by the subjective drive of the military: it is measured objectively and scholars such as Dirk Moses have long said it’s wrong to differentiate it out of military engagement. Related: the entirety of humanitarian law concerns the legality of “military driven” conduct.

alejandrosoberano.bsky.social•139 days ago

Interesting. I agree that abusive military conduct can lead to genocides. Military is often the tool to commit genocide.

Yet, the article describes an objective process to decide engaging military targets in a context of a war with a justified casus belli.

dragon-reborn.bsky.social•139 days ago

Are you defending the genocide of an apartheid regime?
Wow.
Give your head a shake.

alejandrosoberano.bsky.social•139 days ago

Nope. I am not defending anything.

globehead.bsky.social•139 days ago

???

dragon-reborn.bsky.social•139 days ago

Are you under the impression I cannot read?

alejandrosoberano.bsky.social•139 days ago

Sure.

I still think it is contradictory to say "this is a good article" and then say it is a genocide. That's what the 1st comment wrote. The article essentially explains IDF kept a military driven approach even in the worst moments of the war.

Have you read the full article?

carolalejandra-22.bsky.social•139 days ago

Start writing about what’s happening to Palestinians in Gaza. All the people bombed, the number of children with limbs blown off, the starvation. How can it continue???

allanschlosser.bsky.social•139 days ago

Investigative journalism at its best. Extraordinary reporting and analysis by the Times's Jerusalem bureau chief and six of his colleagues.

maelp.bsky.social•139 days ago

Tiens @sophiaaram.bsky.social tu peux lire et te cultiver

legendaryrev.bsky.social•139 days ago

Wow real honeypot of replies for genocide apologists here

bandedhawk.bsky.social•139 days ago

It's a bad situation, but I feel like you are just reporting on it to get clicks. You assisted an incoming administration that will actively support the removal of Palestinians from Gaza. I dislike bullies and those that enable bullies, and have fake outrage later.

shunkawakan.bsky.social•139 days ago

Israel is going to do what it has been working towards since 1947. Take control of ALL the land they feel belongs to them based on ancient times and remove everyone that isn’t Jewish, by death or removal, doesn’t matter to them. They believe the ends justify the means, meaning whatever works.

jefg.bsky.social•139 days ago

You might call it a final solution.

shadeaurion.bsky.social•139 days ago

Uhh yeah. That's what fascists do so maybe don't run promotion for them anymore NYT

mikemack42.bsky.social•139 days ago

What civillian protections? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn5wel11pgdo

jaderydererhard.bsky.social•139 days ago

Genocide is genocide. Israeli right wing extremists persist in trying to annihilate those in lands they view as rightfully theirs. This has been the practice largely since the creation of Israel that displaced those living in homes and on the lands

gonnerinsocal.bsky.social•139 days ago

How Israel ignored the rules of war to wreak vengeance on innocent civilians

cenzvino.bsky.social•139 days ago

Genocide!!!!

gbieger.bsky.social•139 days ago

Saying all the words but 'genocide'

kittycan.bsky.social•139 days ago

Maybe you shouldn’t have carried water for Israel for the last 14 months.

richarddonquixote.bsky.social•139 days ago

Bibi is a fascist war criminal.

tthongk.bsky.social•139 days ago

The genocide was and is made possible partly because of the support from media like NYT.

tauriq.bsky.social•139 days ago

📌

chenswc2010.bsky.social•139 days ago

So as everyone suspected, it was planned to wipe out the other side

gamegrouch.bsky.social•139 days ago

Haven't. You heard, criticizing Israel government is antisemitic? And where was this kind of indepth reporting before the election?

happytourist.bsky.social•139 days ago

To what extent America will support Israel

fairhairdodare.bsky.social•139 days ago

All I can think of is the State of Israel is, in fact, destroying all the heritage in favor of minorities built after the #holocaust. In name of a #promisedland, Israel is just behaving like the perpetrators of the Jewish people in the past. Today’s Palestinians are the Jewishes of the past.

mollypriddy.bsky.social•139 days ago

girl we know we’ve been watching it happen live catch up

peterbosque.bsky.social•139 days ago

Israel is behaving like a criminal and terrorist state. It is committing genocide in Gaza.

jayjohns69.bsky.social•139 days ago

US is complicit in this genocide.

More than 4 trillion of our US national debt is continuing welfare to Israel since 1948

The baby is grown & can walk on its own now! Heck they build Mercava tanks, does Gaza even have a tank

Cut off Israel the largest welfare queen the US has besides Red State

getfcked.bsky.social•138 days ago

Where are the hostages? why did the islamic terrorists commit a massacre and take hostages and not return them?

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