okay i'm seeing now that at least one of the saveafox harassers has been doxxed and outed, their personal data posted, and threats issued against them. This is probably going to be a thing now. and I will not participate. donate to saveafox. carry mikayla's memory in your hearts. - ThreadSky

cargie.baby • 1 day ago

okay i'm seeing now that at least one of the saveafox harassers has been doxxed and outed, their personal data posted, and threats issued against them. This is probably going to be a thing now. and I will not participate. donate to saveafox. carry mikayla's memory in your hearts.

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cargie.baby•1 day ago

there were hundreds, if not thousands participating in the online abuse that contributed to mikayla's torment. not all of them are ever going to be found and held accountable. and just turning this into MORE callouts and MORE abuse, this time "justifiably" is immensely disheartening.

cargie.baby•1 day ago

online abuse does not target actual evildoers. those hide behind walls of money and lawyers. it targets the vulnerable. it goes after the ones who CAN be attacked,not usually the ones who SHOULD be attacked. it goes after targets that can be reached. and it will happen now, in "revenge" for mikayla.

cargie.baby•1 day ago

mikayla's abuse was from random people spreading google docs full of misinfo in the "callouts", as often happens, but also had dedicated subreddits, and much of it was orchestrated by the fur farming industry she helped to dismantle and by other animal rescue orgs that saw her as a "competitor"

cargie.baby•1 day ago

the response to what happened to mikayla should not be to find the ten or fifteen nearest furs who posted links to a google doc and issue threats to them (and of course, LEAP to the attack upon finding out any of them were transgender, as instantly happened)

quillybunny.bsky.social•1 day ago

It's mutually assured destruction, let's just all make callout posts on each other. That's the best way to honor her memory, right? Sigh.

cargie.baby•1 day ago

its so inevitable and yet dismaying.

littlelucius.bsky.social•23 hours ago

A lot of the harassment to my knowledge is also because she was accused of abusing animals IIRC, which doesn't justify it at all, but does mean that probably more than a few people who joined in were thinking they were "doing good"; the entire point of callouts is to direct a whole mob at someone!

littlelucius.bsky.social•23 hours ago

Something something Road to hell paved with good intentions something something

But yeah way more people need to ask "huh is it good and righteous to endlessly harass someone?" before they go ahead and do that and frankly I don't think the people whose first impulse is to counter-harass are!

cargie.baby•23 hours ago

If there's one thing I've learned about the internet in my time here its that abusing animals is the absolute way to make huge numbers of people hate you. it crosses all political and cultural boundaries. people feel righteously angry when fighting on behalf of animals, more than any other source

cargie.baby•23 hours ago

this manifests in vegans, it manifested in the people going after zoosadists, it manifested against saveafox when people accused her of "abusing" the animals in her care, and now it manifests against the people who were harassing saveafox, in the name of protecting animals.

cargie.baby•23 hours ago

and this righteousness is fueled by wanting to protect the innocent. an absolutely noble goal. and yet so easily used to justify the worst possible actions in the name of that righteousness

cherrybl0ss0m.bsky.social•23 hours ago

I don't care much to join in the counter hate, but I still wish for them to get the justice they're owed for what they did.

At the same time, us going after them isn't gonna help anybody as much as donations to what really matters. Let lady Justice do her thing, and let us do ours as best we can.

cherrybl0ss0m.bsky.social•23 hours ago

I see it in much the same way as what happened after Steve Irwin's death. People were killing stingrays out revenge, which is the exact OPPOSITE of what he would've wanted.

I may not have known Mikayla, but I'm sure that, if she were alive to see this, she'd be more upset at us than the bullies

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