you can pretty easily get Europeans to talk about what needs to get done, that things have changed, but then when you ask how they're gonna pay for that or what structural changes to the EU they'll make they kinda give a blank stare and mumble something - ThreadSky

unavaleable.bsky.social • 89 days ago

you can pretty easily get Europeans to talk about what needs to get done, that things have changed, but then when you ask how they're gonna pay for that or what structural changes to the EU they'll make they kinda give a blank stare and mumble something

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yeah for all the talk Macron does, he literally tried to get FN elected with the snap legislative elections, like that was the plan to make Le Pen unpopular and protect his pension cuts

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economymedicine.bsky.social•89 days ago

Spending money makes the Germans sad so the entire EU must embrace austerity

unavaleable.bsky.social•89 days ago

like there is a much greater possibility they'll walk the walk this time but uh we'll see if they actually do, these issues long pre-date trump and haven't been solved for reasons (because no one wants to give up what they have/veto player vetoing)

inkro.bsky.social•89 days ago

I think they get about halfway there, but um, the money is the easy part here. We still haven't addressed the manpower issues or the supply chain stuff that reflects superpower level thinking operating at this scale now requires (although to be fair we did sort of pull the CHIPS act out of a hat)

inkro.bsky.social•89 days ago

A bad recession could easily wipe away these grand plans clean and uh, that might be happening soon!

unavaleable.bsky.social•89 days ago

i think Europe has definitely realized that things are fucked but man they'll have to spend a truly ungodly amount of money to decouple themselves from the states and they can barely rub two eurocents together without someone breaking into tears

ernekid.bsky.social•89 days ago

Also the European public know that Ukraine isn't worth the bones of a single Pomeranian grenadier. There's zero appetite in most electorates for rearming purely for Ukraine

inkro.bsky.social•89 days ago

There's a reason why the foreign peacekeepers in Ukraine idea never gets anywhere, people just don't want that smoke

azery.bsky.social•89 days ago

a lot of us would probably ok with selling them down the river vs the alternative (some pretty considerable tax rises across the board) and that's just depressing to think about

azery.bsky.social•89 days ago

same here in the UK lmao. our govt forced themselves into a fiscal straightjacket and are still unwilling to tear it up due to dire circumstances.

azery.bsky.social•89 days ago

everyone knows what needs to be done, there is simply the lack of will.

somehow fucking Germany got the will before us.

darkdementus.bsky.social•89 days ago

Excuse the ignorance, what needs to be done? Undo brexit?

Sorry for not understanding but definitely curious

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