Yea, except here's Quake II, a game from the year the Riva 128 launched, vs Half-Life 2, and here's Battlefield V vs Doom: The Dark Ages, games which have the same age gap. I'm not noticing the same kind fidelity increase. So please, explain how this is supposed to be a compelling argument - ThreadSky

ninealex.bsky.social • 39 days ago

Yea, except here's Quake II, a game from the year the Riva 128 launched, vs Half-Life 2, and here's Battlefield V vs Doom: The Dark Ages, games which have the same age gap. I'm not noticing the same kind fidelity increase. So please, explain how this is supposed to be a compelling argument

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ninealex.bsky.social•39 days ago

And before you mention iteration times with ray tracing vs baking, I'm aware. But the average consumer isn't aware and doesn't care, and they're the ones being asked to fork over at least $180 for a used 2060 Super or RX 6600 at a time when wages haven't kept up with inflation, but rents beating it

dark1x.bsky.social•39 days ago

Look, if you're still using a 9 year old card at this point, I don't think you get to dictate the state of modern PC games. If you're able to run a lot of games on that hardware, that's awesome, but it shouldn't be expected.

ninealex.bsky.social•39 days ago

If you go to the Steam Hardware Survey and add up the percents of all the non-RT cards you get 19.99%, and that's assuming the entire 9.49% other are RT cards that didn't make the list like the Titan RTX. Really the number is closer to ~25%. I'm not dictating anything, I'm pointing out a reality

dark1x.bsky.social•39 days ago

Right but I don't think that percentage does or should expect those PCs to play the latest games. There are always going to be those unwilling or unable to upgrade. That's just reality. They should be thankful they've been able to use this hardware for that long as it was never this good before.

64bitmodels.bsky.social•39 days ago

so 25% of the entire PC gaming audience is incapable of playing the newest games.... but the other 75% can with no issues.

come on now

ninealex.bsky.social•39 days ago

This is at least close to a counter argument. However, my core argument is the question; what is there in RT only games like this to get that 25% excited about new hardware? What is noticeably different as Quake 2 v Half-Life 2? or is this just an assimilate or die situation with no noticeable pros?

dark1x.bsky.social•39 days ago

It allowed them to make a different sort of game that wasn’t possible otherwise at this fidelity. The last games were ultra static - Dark Ages is packed with physics and huge enemy counts in very large maps. All of this is down to RT.

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