Maddow: That is the behavior on January 6th that Trump is praising and promising to use the pardon power for. So, yeah, tell me all about the scandal of the use of the pardon power.
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Sorry you're missing my point, we hold our own accountable anyway, many times to a fault is argue - Al Frankin.. and they never do, not one fuuuuuuucking time has the Republican party held over of their own accountable.
So I'm saying there isn't a problem with Democrats and the law, we enforce it
This! We are known to eat our own for the sake of accountability, while Republicans will literally support monsters. We've got to let go of this superiority complex and recognize what we're up against. Who cares that Biden pardoned his son when Trump is gearing up to dismantle our institutions?
Hunter was political, the investigation was started to deflect from Trump's crimes in office pressuring Ukraine to fabricate dirt on any Biden and NO other person who's faced the same charges has had his shit more f-ked...
Anyone who is so inflexible that they cannot reevaluate a situation under changing circumstances is not capable of leading anything. Joe Biden reevaluated the situation about his son, and, rightly, changed his position.
Donald will exploit every power he has. He will pardon insurrectionists & criminals. He will stretch the bounds of immunity. He will upend norms & appoint people who are national security threats. We are heading into a major crisis. https://youtube.com/live/PJSAcWtonSU?feature=share
Idea: letβs just take away the pardon power of the president because itβs now just being abused. Its like with children, you allow something then take it away from everyone once itβs abused
Iβm with Rachel. Iβm tired of bringing a knife to a gun fight. We have effectively entered the Hunger Games now.
Every nomination Trump has made for cabinet posts is essentially a big F*K you to our democratic system .
β¦Not to mention the Trump pardons of convicted criminals Steve Bannon and Roger Stone, and more.
God bless Biden for saving his son from the relentless, ridiculous pursuit of Hunter, which no other regular citizen would have been subjected to.
God bless Biden.
Game on.
This was never not going to be messy. If Trump had pardoned Hunted instead, as he toyed with, Trump would be lauded as the great humanitarian. And dad Biden would be seen as too weak to ever pardon his own son.
After the debate her and Tim miller just railed on Joe. She does it a lot. She talks about Trump constantly. She definitely normalize him. She has her bright moments-but there are not many
My favorites too! My favorite was when Joy Reid said the Harris team ran a flawless campaign. People dogged on Biden way too much. God rest his beautiful soul
Seriously. Is there any more delusional thinking than the idea that denying Hunter a pardon will suddenly fix the coming criminal cornucopia that is the Trump admin and its willing accomplices the Republican Party?
Heβs just feeding his cult their talking point to parrot once he starts doing what he said he was already going to do. Trumpism requires a constant noise campaign
This country has two children. One child has committed many criminal acts, associates with bad friends, and is a compulsive liar. But as a parent, you freak out about the child who used AI to help with homework. Iβm worried about you as a country!!!
If we are ever going to have America as we know it again, the question of presidential pardons must be addressed. We thought Nixon was bad, then came Trump and just imagine what a smarter SOB with a compromised party like we now have in the GOP will do to this country. Oh, I forgot itβs done.
I love how he refers to the J6 terrorists as βhostagesβ who engaged in a βpeaceful protestβ, while also insisting he ordered 10k troops to the Capitol.
Why would they need 10k troops for a βpeaceful protestβ?
He never ordered 10k troops & it wasnβt peaceful. Just more bullshit lies from Trump.
Biden using the pardon power to issue a blanket pardon for his own son is a scandal ***precisely for the same reason*** it is a scandal for Trump to use the pardon power for Jan. 6 coup participants.
You and Tom Nichols are convincing me. At first I did not blame Biden for pardoning Hunter. Yet, I can see how Bidenβs justifications for granting the pardons reflected the same distrust of the justice system as is expressed by Trump. Also, the blanket pardons for 10 years is excessive.
Trump is going to pardon some awful people, who are guilty of awful crimes against our Constitution, and people are going to say, "Well, Biden pardoned Hunter," and shrug their shoulders.
Was Rachel tolerable tonight. I haven't been able to watch because she's just been scaring people in her A block about the new administration's plans ever since the election without offering any solutions?
Biden did the right thing to end a purely politically motivated attack on Hunter and a ridiculous Special Counsel that should never been appointed by Merrick Garland π€¬
Total BS
Roger Stone, Gen. Flynn, Steve Bannon, George Papadopolous, Paul Manafort, Charles Kushner, Sheriff Arapaio, Dinesh Desuza, Conrad Black, Albert J. Pirro ....
Co conspirators, frauds, tax evaders and asst'd best people.
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Of course. Everythingβs transactional with trump. He already got what he wanted out of them. The pardon starts a new transaction. Heβs not pardoning them expecting them to go home & behave themselves, he WANTS terrorists in his name on the loose that feel emboldened & protected from the law.
I wouldn't be surprised if Trump pardons ALL the Jan. 6 insurrectionists shortly after his inauguration. He may even bring them to the White House and proclaim them heroes. Ugh.
It doesn't seem like the right to pardon is a balanced check. Doesn't it mean the executive branch can veto the judicial branch, making a lot of legislation worthless?
How HOW is she allowed to say the truth she (and Lawrence) are calling Everyone out. She should be calling out her colleagues as well for being complicit!
Just a few of Trump's much more controversial pardons of family and closest associates:
Charles Kushner
Paul Manafort
Roger Stone
Michael Flynn
Stephen Bannon
George Papadopoulos
Alex van der Zwaan
Dinesh D'Souza
Joe Arpaio
Bernard Kerik
Elliott Broidy
Tommaso Buti
Kenneth Kurson
Conrad Black
The 2024 election was not a red wave Trump won only 1.62% over Harris. Maddock explains how Trump is convincing the American people that they want him to do what he wants to clean house. Even if it means bringing in convicted felons to run the administration.
Upon examining the particulars of the case, it becomes abundantly clear that it was a most just and worthy instance for pardon. Indeed, such an observation suffices, and no further justification is necessary.
If anyone wonders why Biden pardoned his son, see what Comer said tonight on the devil channel. He is still going to go after him. Imagine if he didn't pardon him.
So annoyed people in the news keep bringing up what Trump is *now* gonna do as if he wouldnβt done it any wayβ¦ but most importantly, as if we hasnβt done it ALREADY. Trump, pardoned a bunch of his loyalist friends. He set a terrible precedent π€·π»ββοΈ we would ALL pardon our own son in this situation.
Did Bill Clinton pardon a friend that had been convicted of impeding a congressional inquiry that threatened himself (Clinton)? Did he pardon his National security advisor for acting as a Russian asset and then lying to the FBI to cover Clintonβs administration?
Sadly, all corporate media is the enemy now. MSNBC will soon be sold and all decent people will be fired. I don't watch any corporate, cable news anymore.
Yeah - look at this! How much did THIS guy pay for his pardon? MANY OF HIS PARDONS WERE PAID FOR!! I thought the MAGAts loved the cops? This guy killed one - and Trump freed him.
This was my first show on MSNBC since the day before the election. It was excellent. I encourage President Biden to continue to use every tool he has including the Insurrection Act to prevent a Russian agent and his criminal cabal from taking power.
The media has literally gone off the deep end about Bidenβs pardon. Trump is stacking his administration with authoritarians to implement Project 2025 Media noβ¦. problem. Nothing has changed since 2016.
My guess is Trump is using the Hunter Biden pardon as a way to distract from the complete incompetence of his cabinet appointments ... ( welcome to the horrible ringmaster and the really really bad circus that is now in town) welcome to fascism!
USA is now at the entrance into Stalinist mob regime but with tech bosses.
Most of ppl have absolutely no imagination, are not prepared for what is actually happening:
The media landscape has been turned into a total mob propaganda machine.
Heroes like Rachel Maddow will actually be attacked
@maddow.bsky.social This is exactly right! The narcissism of trump & his magas is all they need, this pardon is nothing more than an excuse that, in their minds, they really donβt need to justify their actions. They are laughing at the whiny Dems β¦
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President Biden rescued his son from a pack of Wolves. Speaker
Mike Johnson turned the House of Representatives over to Trump. We will have no balance of power whatsoever come January 20. Why are they saying Democrats are weak. Republicans turned the government over to Trump. McConnell needs to go.
The disgrace isnβt the pardon but the lie behind it. He vowed not to pardon his son, presenting himself as morally upright to win votes, then broke that promise. Pardoning his son for undisclosed crimes tied to Burisma exposes his blatant dishonesty, leaving a permanent stain on the presidency.
Americans should stop pretending to uphold principles when they're willing to overlook Trump's crimes and elect a convicted felon. Hunter Biden wouldnβt have faced investigation if he werenβt the presidentβs son. media is big problem.. They are far from reality and the people..
Politically, the pardon is good because it puts a period at the end of the damn thing. Two or three more news cycles and it will fade, lose the energy the republicans need to generate outrage. Then we redirect the spotlight to the many outrages of the incoming admin.
If we are not going to use the intelligence we have gathered about Trump's compromised relationship with Putin right now to defend our nation, when are we going to use it? Never?
Get serious. Itβs not like our Congress is brave like the South Korean legislature. They will not impeach the son of a bitch and they wonβt convict him. But our AG could arrest Trump. Heβs only walking free because he delayed his prosecutions. Heβs a criminal traitorwho plans to torch our democracy.
The enemy of the country is the lack of braveness of Congress. Trump is a boulder going down a hill, blameless and aimless. You can't blame anyone except the people who have the truth and law behind them. What does trump have, small hands? Congress against small hands, and Congress buckles from fear
Biden should award the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Rachel Maddow. She's WAY more deserving of it than that odious Rush Limbaugh. Take an occasional leaf from MAGATS' rule book and own THEM.
I will always support Rachel, Lawrence, Joy, Hayes and the Weekend crew. Please donβt abandon them. They are the only ones who have stood their ground despite the finger pointing and hate leveled at MSNBC. To me, they have held fast to exposing those at fault. They need our support IMHO.
I agree. A good way to do that, if you know you may not be able to watch every night, or all weekend mornings, is to set your DVR up to record their shows, because that bolsters their viewership numbers.
Iβm tearing up a bit here. I felt so nervous about sharing my heartfelt and transparent thoughts here. I was vulnerable and fearful of possible backlash. Here at https://bsky.social I feel seen, heard and validated. There really ARE more of us than there are of them. (A child of the Civil Rights Movement)βπΎ
Absolutely we should call out our leadership. But it seems only one side is doing that. I don't like that Pres. Biden took the option, but daddy Joe can not be faulted. Biden would be criticized either way.
1/ Watched the show. Rachel used the context that this is not the first time one of our elected officials was pressured to "go along to get along" for political purposes. We are just aghast that Pres. "Sleepy Joe" Biden did something unexpected.
Still not getting it. Just because one side does bad doesn't make it right. We all knew he would pardon, he should have done it years ago and no theater politics would have happened
Trump was going to pardon most of these MAGA deplorables regardless of what Joe did with Hunter. I am OK with Joe's decision. Hunter has suffered enough, I understand the bond he has with his dad, living through so many tragedies.
Thank you, Rachel Maddow - for all that you shared tonight - but especially for pointing out NYT's front page. WTF is wrong with MSM - 'obeying in advance'????
Of course not and why would you expect him to? Putin isn't who matters. trump doesn't give a shit about our principles - ours or anyone else's. That isn't the point. Only WE can take our principles away from ourselves. Only WE can take the steps that make "Navalny like Putin".
Anyone who is so inflexible that they cannot reevaluate a situation under changing circumstances is not capable of leading anything. Joe Biden reevaluated the situation about his son, and, rightly, changed his position.
But now they lie comfortably. For a few minutes, there was real, genuine discomfort in trump's ranks about his unbelievably stupid decisions, especially Patel. That's all gone now and it's all about Hunter again.
Trump will do whatever he wants! Biden letting his son be jailed wouldn't have earned a piece of praise form the same ppl going after him now, they would have said Biden is a bad father. Already saying he shouldn't have run then. This is about hating Biden and wanting blood no high minded BS.
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The Hunter pardon gives trump infinite cover for his bad decisions. Not good. Not at all.
So I'm saying there isn't a problem with Democrats and the law, we enforce it
Biden let the theatrics play out.
His son took the hits.
Preventing Hunter from being a pawn into perpetuity needed to happen.
There's SO MUCH space between letting people be harmed and never criticizing, FFS.
"No one is above the law". That is lost to us now.
This started w abuse of power and being above the law, Biden let it play out enough.
Hunter still got consequences and now is insulated from being a pawn some more.
BTW don't engage them. Don't debate them. Don't acknowledge them at all. DO NOT FEED THE MAGAts! Block those who support the criminal. A list I keep updated. subscribe and block if you want.
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Remarkably helpful advice.
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All votes from people of color were challenged by
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Provisional votes were never counted!
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Every nomination Trump has made for cabinet posts is essentially a big F*K you to our democratic system .
God bless Biden for saving his son from the relentless, ridiculous pursuit of Hunter, which no other regular citizen would have been subjected to.
God bless Biden.
Game on.
Not so much on Joe/Mika since they bended their knees & kissed the ring of a wannabe be Trump king & his dirty minions.
Why would they need 10k troops for a βpeaceful protestβ?
He never ordered 10k troops & it wasnβt peaceful. Just more bullshit lies from Trump.
Glad to help.
It's truly disgusting.
Total BS
Co conspirators, frauds, tax evaders and asst'd best people.
237 in total.
Know where to find them.
They bring arms against people and cities - they will be taken down with extreme prejudice.
Charles Kushner
Paul Manafort
Roger Stone
Michael Flynn
Stephen Bannon
George Papadopoulos
Alex van der Zwaan
Dinesh D'Souza
Joe Arpaio
Bernard Kerik
Elliott Broidy
Tommaso Buti
Kenneth Kurson
Conrad Black
https://bsky.app/profile/bruceadler.bsky.social/post/3lceum7ya4k27
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JRVXQsx8RF0
It's a cynical calculation by some on the fringes of our party that the only way for us to win is to play dirty, just as they do.
I do not wish to be them. How one plays the game matters. What we believe matters.
If you accept a preemptive pardon, we will rightly believe you are a criminal whether we know your crime(s) or not.
Trump's America . . . a pathetic "shi!hole country"...
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I donβt think soβ¦ that was Trump
The Dems need to stop gas lighting themselves that you can take the high road with diplorables.
The pardon was a middle finger to the GOP. And we need more of that to cut them off at their knees.
https://www.wesh.com/article/cop-killer-pardoned-by-trump-commits-new-crime-in-florida/62073373
No pardons for any of them. Hang them all.
Most of ppl have absolutely no imagination, are not prepared for what is actually happening:
The media landscape has been turned into a total mob propaganda machine.
Heroes like Rachel Maddow will actually be attacked
Those who tell the truth are the first ones to get silenced.
Russia and the mob destroyed my country.
Expect this:
Read every headline carefully.
They absolutely will destroy lives and take people's properties.
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Mike Johnson turned the House of Representatives over to Trump. We will have no balance of power whatsoever come January 20. Why are they saying Democrats are weak. Republicans turned the government over to Trump. McConnell needs to go.
Letβs see if Trump wants that.
Thanks for still being out there speaking sense.
All votes from people of color were challenged by
MAGA VIGILANTE AND THROWN OFF THE COUNT.
Provisional votes were never counted!
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Make Biden #DeclassifyTrump, so we can force the Congress to #ImpeachTrumpNow.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/11/21/2287839/-We-Can-Stop-Trump?_=2024-11-21T11:19:50.000-08:00
And also, we have to be able to criticize our own side. The trump cult can't call out their dear leader when he fucks up. We should be able to.