If you don't know the material well enough without relying on ai, then
A) you don't know the material well enough. Period.
B) you should not advance in your field because otherwise your lack of proficiency may influence future incarnations of ai models.
If you were my kid's HS teacher, I would remind you that some students have disabilities you can't easily see which make hand written essay tests impossible. The ability to type for classwork and exams is an accommodation that exists in many IEP and 504 plans. Teachers can detect ChatGPT easily.
Bad idea, Doc. A ninety minute timed essay doesn't assess your ability to create an essay. Technology advances faster than we can predict its impact. We must adapt and incorporate. Teach AI tech as a resource but stress integrity. The answer to your plagiarism concerns is oral exam or essay defense.
Shared the greatest idea i read from a colleague. Create the instructions with a hidden, white text message embedded, telling students to include references from a made up Author which AI will willingly do. Then check for a reference to that made up name. Works if students copy-paste into chatgpt.
I do that as a university professor. Works great, including for classes up to 200 students, where I administer and grade the exams myself, with accommodations as requested by students with special learning needs.
education is a privilege, not a right. We live in a world where compliance and comfort are more important than philosophy or morality, of course kids dont want or care to learn :/
Education is a necessity. The education system is designed to create competent future members of or society though emotional, behavioral, and intellectual socialization. Education as a privilege with further entrench the socio-economic classes. Rich/private education/possibility. Poor/no skills
yes but as we have seen the public school curriculum is not working, I have friends that say their 5th grade students can barely read or spell. as it stands the only kids getting an actual education are privileged enough to have proper homeschooling or private schooling.
In my classroom, I have access to all their Chromebook screens on my laptop. I rarely assign essay work online, and when I do, I've taught them some ways to use ChatGPT as a tool. AI isn't going away so we need to help students use it correctly.
Also, many HS and colleges have AI checkers built in
Should calculators be allowed in math class? Same theory of using technology as a tool. I teach reading and writing skills, and it can be useful. It has its place just as internet access does for research resources.
Not quite the same. A calculator still requires knowledge of the problem and steps needed. ChatGTP removes the need for thought when students are in a stage of development where teaching thought is important.
In medical school. So the students are beyond high school level but still developing. It’s nice to see them move from deer in the headlights to confident.
Oh, my. I'm afraid I would do so very well in "your class."
Ask someone when the last time they BOUGHT a pen was.
Ask them their FAVORITE type and point size.
And then, favorite paper.
Including size.
It's a tool.
Just like that manual Royal typewriter and those 3x5 cards were once.
In my high school biology class, if you missed any tests, you were handed pen & paper & given an essay question. It was even open book, but you only had that one period to write it. Harsh! 😱😂💚
If colleges don't go back to the blue books, their degrees will be completely worthless within a few years. Who wants to hire a graduate of a school when there is a very high probability that much of their degree was just ChatGPT? I don't, and I won't.
The goal of education is knowledge acquisition. The problem AI poses is creating a reliable assessment to test if the knowledge has been acquired, and legitimately. The legitimacy of a student's degree can be discovered in the interview process and industry specific certification processes.
For many (most?) jobs, the degree *is* the “industry certification”. And that many jobs are too complex for any sane interview process to properly filter people. It’s why we lean on degrees as a substitute so much. The college had that person and evaluated for 4 years.
Industry certification like passing the bar exam to practice law, Uniform CPA Examination to become accountant, Praxis exams to become a teacher, residency to become a doctor. I doubt someone who cheated their way through law school, could pass the bar.
I’ve had a tons of terrible doctors and lawyers and accountants. I’ve hired and seen lots of software developers and other IT staff with certifications who were lousy. What’s your point? These things mean something, but not that much.
Agree. Interviews are not enough time to assess someone. We had a long meeting about whether to make clerkship grades pass fail. I’m against it as it puts actions of distinction outside the roll of the school. Seems not fair to the students without resources and giving up our job of assessing.
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2 hours.
Question: Describe Roman Life between XXX - XXX (I can't remember the dates as it was 1981!)
At the start of the test, he revealed the 30 items he wanted covered
Still my favorite teacher despite my temporary carpel tunnel
I did find this student comment on his retirement:
"Dr Roberts is the type of person that once you have meet him you are a better person for it. I wish there was more people in the world like him."
A) you don't know the material well enough. Period.
B) you should not advance in your field because otherwise your lack of proficiency may influence future incarnations of ai models.
Also, many HS and colleges have AI checkers built in
Not everyone knows how to educate and foster an empowered learning environment.
Some think it’s their life’s missions to make their students fail.
Ask someone when the last time they BOUGHT a pen was.
Ask them their FAVORITE type and point size.
And then, favorite paper.
Including size.
It's a tool.
Just like that manual Royal typewriter and those 3x5 cards were once.