Again, individual proportionally, I'll replace my gas boiler and get a heat pump, that'll be used to heat my home 95% of the time, massive CO2 reduction...dependent on how the power is generated. Wood burner, local waste wood, 5%of our heat, cumulative CO2, f**k all, this really isn't a problem - ThreadSky

thunderbird787b.bsky.social • 14 days ago

Again, individual proportionally,
I'll replace my gas boiler and get a heat pump, that'll be used to heat my home 95% of the time, massive CO2 reduction...dependent on how the power is generated.
Wood burner, local waste wood, 5%of our heat, cumulative CO2, f**k all, this really isn't a problem

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bettertimes.bsky.social•12 days ago

Why do you need a wood burner anyway? The point about wood burners is that as well as CO2 they emit many different toxic substances that are dangerous to health. Why should I have to breathe in heavy concentrations of toxic smoke from my neighbour’s wood burning stoves?

nbrsvswoodsmoke.bsky.social•13 days ago

Its a huge problem for PM, UFPs and many toxic & carcinogenic invisible toxic fumes. Air pollution harms the environment. Knock on carbon footprint implications for neighbours are huge. Our neighbours "Ecodesign" stove greatly increased our carbon footprint & had devastating health impacts.

thunderbird787b.bsky.social•13 days ago

I'm still not buying the carbon footprint element, but I get the pm issue, I just don't see it as a major problem when compared to the burning of fossil fuels.
I know where my priorities lie, myself and my next door neighbour both burn wood occasionally, it's not our primary heat source

bettertimes.bsky.social•12 days ago

You are both breathing in toxic smoke which has adverse effects on health. I don’t have any choice but to breathe in my neighbour’s toxic smoke. Is that right?

nbrsvswoodsmoke.bsky.social•13 days ago

You don’t think air pollution affects climate change? You can’t separate the two just because you like staring at a pretty flame. Wood burning was generally abandoned centuries ago because it was so filthy and inefficient. Phasing out fossil fuels is no reason to revert to archaic heating methods.

thunderbird787b.bsky.social•13 days ago

I'm going to do some proper research, I'm not going to just take your word for it.
Googling so far has revealed massively contradictory results, which normally means the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

nbrsvswoodsmoke.bsky.social•13 days ago

The only sources saying wood burning is "carbon neutral" are paid marketing or "studies" by the stove and forestry industries that don't explore all the issues (such as knock on carbon footprints and neighbours health)They are more interested in their profits than public health and the environment.

nbrsvswoodsmoke.bsky.social•13 days ago

Even if you don't believe its carbon neutral, the public health implications should be enough to stop you burning. Every time you light your fire you are gambling with the lives of vulnerable neighbours who don't get a say in being poisoned by toxic fumes in their own homes. It impacts a wide area.

mikehinford.bsky.social•13 days ago

And I bet the results that contradict the fact wood burning releases carbon dioxide are from the Stove Industry.

I wrote this article.
Worth looking at the video (link in article) about the UK gov figures.
https://medium.com/@ChronicIllnessChannel/scaremongering-misinformation-complaint-about-sia-also-upheld-b3cb5388b5c8

nbrsvswoodsmoke.bsky.social•13 days ago

Its extremely naive to believe that wood burning is carbon neutral. You are ignoring knock on implications all the way down the chain. Neighbours of wood burners have to run air purifiers, tumble dryers, dehumidifiers (as we can't ventilate our homes) + carbon footprints of extra medications, etc.

mikehinford.bsky.social•14 days ago

If everyone did the same it would be a problem.

Yes you are reducing your CO2 emissions by changing your gas boiler to a heat pump.
But you could reduce it even more by using a realistic fake fire with the electricity from your solar panels.

Just say you like burning wood. That's OK.

bettertimes.bsky.social•12 days ago

Of course he likes burning stuff!!

thunderbird787b.bsky.social•14 days ago

There's not enough wood for everyone to do the same, obviously, that's not the point! And no, when I get a heat pump, and I still burn a little wood, that will still displace electricity generated by gas, so a net benefit, frankly not convinced by your arguments, but I will investigate deeper.

mikehinford.bsky.social•14 days ago

UK electricity - 0.207074 kg CO2e per KwH
Wood Burning - 0.35 kg CO2e per KwH
(Look in the 'Outside of Scope' sheet for the wood burning one. )

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/greenhouse-gas-reporting-conversion-factors-2024

mikehinford.bsky.social•14 days ago

The stat that Global Action Plan use here:
https://www.cleanairhub.org.uk/clean-air-night

is from here: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/gcbb.12327

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