...............I'm waiting for the corrupt media and the Tories and Reform to start trying to gaslight the public into believing that the US trade deal is a bad thing ... because you know they will. Just a matter of how.
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Have not seen anything so far to hint that it’s a great deal? If the 10% tariffs remain in place, did you get ANY concessions? (other than on Luxury cars)
I've got no idea and neither have you but the difference is that I want this government to succeed and I trust ANY government to act in our best interests...until they absolutely prove that they are unable to do so. Lets wait and see ( unlike the people who feast on negativity for a living.
There is no deal yet, just some framework. Deals take months to work out so it remains to be seen however, that 10% seems to remain. Time will tell. :)
Starmer is a coward with no backbone. I’m Labour all the way (or at least was), but Starmer is picking fights with students, pensioners, small businesses but bows down to fascists he can’t stomp over. He’s a fucking loser and deserves to have his career ruined and forgotten
The UK media have never been worse at talking down ANY government ...Ever! Nothing this government does is ever talked up. For example : Winter Fuel allowance is talked about endlessly still despite for example pensions increasing by £400 in April...never mentioned. Everything reported negatively
Not sure how many pensioners you know, but all the ones I know are actually worse off with the pension increase due to the tax.
The average pensioner is actually £32 a week poorer.
The facts are there if you want to do the research and math.
No better than the Tories they replaced. Probably worse.
And you on the other hand think it's a "great deal" cause what? Trump said so?
You are aware it's a nothing burger, no details on this pure concept, that change almost nothing, with an "ally" that only accounted for like 3% of American exports, and America was already in a surplus with, yeah?
The bitch in the US is literally breaking things only to end up setting them up exactly as they were to begin with. Give it time and watch. Stop giving our president here any kind of concession. It fucks your nation and mine.
Im American and guess what? It was a bad thing because absolutely NOBODY should be working with the dipshit orange in our governments highest office.
NOT A SINGLE SOUL. Fuck that bitch and he needs to drown in his absolutely shit policies/executive orders.
You wouldn't get specifics at a press conference and especially at a Trump one but can't we start out from a postion of wanting this to succeed ? The press won't and the Tories wouldnt know how but can't we?
> can't we start out [...] wanting this to succeed
In the same way as someone "wanting to succeed" at giving a bully their lunch money so that the bully leaves them alone for the rest of the school year, perhaps.
I'll be happy for the victim if it works out the way they are hoping... but until then, the kind, compassionate, and helpful thing is to *dissuade* them from pursuing the terrible gamble.
Enshrine a 10% tariff on all your goods? At least until Trump decides to change his mind?
You wouldn't get specifics at the press conference but they would be released if they actually existed.
It is a very bad idea! All the f***** felon is doing is tryna.Rip people off countries, I should say! Anything you do He will use against you to make you do whatever he wants. You never signed anything with the felon he turns the tables on you! You can't trust him!
Everyone knows this and everyone decent knows that somehow the US put a despicable monster in the White House.
Do you think anyone sensible in the UK actually has any regard for Trump.The State visit is Trump being bribed for our benefit.
Of course the govt are playing Trump... a means to an end.
We'll see but wanting the govt to succeed and recognising the toxic corrupt bias of the press and the Tories is extremely important. It has literally never been worse.
It's a very abstract perception of a deal. A concept of a deal. One could almost qualify it as a non-event of a deal. Simply because it doesn't exist - even as a MOU or MOI. So it will indeed be interesting to see/read how the media weaves this not-a-thing into a 'some thing' !
Anyone who thinks Shitler is negotiating in good faith is delusional. Any leader desperate enough to allow themselves to be manipulated by the fascist for a photo op is not going to produce any deal worth your time. You’re better off working with the EU, Canada, Mexico and Australia.
Average tariffs have been about 3% so 10% is tripling what has been normal. As bad as that alone is, the details are not in the agreement so it amounts to a concept of a plan at best. Nothing has been accomplished except destroying jobs and consumer choice.
Everyone sensible and grown up wants the govt to succeed but shamefully our media and opposition parties will make it their job to talk it down.There are a class of people in the UK who don't even realise that they 'get off' on being automatically negative about this govt no matter what. Toxic.
I want the government to succeed. Reform and the Tories would slag the deal regardless of the detail. Sensible people not playing politics have to believe in this deal until it proves otherwise...its the grown up thing to do.
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There is a plan for a framework for talks that may lead to a deal.
Hang up on him.
Trump’s a rock solid LOSER.
The average pensioner is actually £32 a week poorer.
The facts are there if you want to do the research and math.
No better than the Tories they replaced. Probably worse.
You are aware it's a nothing burger, no details on this pure concept, that change almost nothing, with an "ally" that only accounted for like 3% of American exports, and America was already in a surplus with, yeah?
NOT A SINGLE SOUL. Fuck that bitch and he needs to drown in his absolutely shit policies/executive orders.
In the same way as someone "wanting to succeed" at giving a bully their lunch money so that the bully leaves them alone for the rest of the school year, perhaps.
Tell me what the deal is.
You wouldn't get specifics at the press conference but they would be released if they actually existed.
Do you think anyone sensible in the UK actually has any regard for Trump.The State visit is Trump being bribed for our benefit.
Of course the govt are playing Trump... a means to an end.
“Oh please mr Trump I’ll give you everything just punch me once instead of three times.”
This country has completely fallen.