I’m sorry that life isn’t fair, but what works for their coalition will not work for your coalition. Your task is harder. It sucks, but that’s the way it is. - ThreadSky

radiofreetom.bsky.social • 8 days ago

I’m sorry that life isn’t fair, but what works for their coalition will not work for your coalition. Your task is harder. It sucks, but that’s the way it is.

Reposted from LauraD-in-Indy

Your hero worship is showing. If Tom's advice was so sage and correct, explain how images like this didn't derail the political success, goals and fortunes of the MAGAt/GOP.
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glenn61.bsky.social•7 days ago

And don't forget the well coordinated media system they have. They aren't bothered by lying, and they have had years to perfect cooperating closely.

Against that, we have a fragmented group concerned with facts and truth.

That's reality.

histdocandmore.bsky.social•8 days ago

The one thing I don’t understand about those people fighting with you, is: what’s the goal here? Even if you would suddenly agree with them - what would be won? It’s not like you single-handily decide about the incumbent of the White House.

seabeegator46.bsky.social•8 days ago

Take it away, Bruce!

https://youtu.be/cOeKidp-iWo?si=nNMcwO50W-YnOeAy

thomastell.bsky.social•8 days ago

I've been voting Democratic for 40+ years and this party never, 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳 learns, which explains how, even after the first Trump term and the January 6 insurrection, we now have a second Trump administration, the GOP controlling both houses of Congress, and a SCOTUS packed with conservatives. 🤨

davekearnjr.bsky.social•8 days ago

Amen.

filmalicia.bsky.social•7 days ago

It goes back to Will Rogers: “I’m not a member of any organized political party — I’m a Democrat.”

The party hasn’t changed much since then.

playtyperguy.com•7 days ago

And once again, the Confederate flag is considered a “US flag” and part of southern heritage. I don’t like it but that doesn’t make it less real. People are acting as if there has not been a spirited debate about this for decades.

playtyperguy.com•7 days ago

Trump’s coalition includes most of the south. This is not a shocker. However, waving a Mexican flag — an objectively foreign flag — when your opponents are describing you as an invading force is just absurd

david-stone.bsky.social•8 days ago

What's most unfair is, MAGAs are willing to suffer as long as "we" suffer more. This is one reason why I liked the line-dancing "protest" so much. Who doesn't like to dance? And it was sort of a "F-you" to MAGAs sitting at home hoping to see a snarling mob instead.

jo-el.bsky.social•8 days ago

So your argument is “placate the racists if you want to defeat fascism”?

Do you not see it’s the same fight?

queenbeejdl.bsky.social•8 days ago

You can slap down logical fallacies but that takes time we don’t have. It can be done in tandem with protests that don’t involve burning cars and giving them footage that looks like a hellscape. None of this involves me giving into racism or fascism. It’s just PR, man.

queenbeejdl.bsky.social•8 days ago

Now, do I think it’s great people can’t tell the dif between Mexican & any other Spanish speaker? Do I think it’s ok that too many people think people from the south of the US are savages? No I do not. I think we should correct that. But you don’t change the drapes while the house is on fire.

jo-el.bsky.social•8 days ago

No, but you don’t ignore the accelerant, either

queenbeejdl.bsky.social•8 days ago

No. The argument is if the story too many people believe is that Hispanic people with exotic knives have invaded and are coming to slice you up after they rape your daughter with the help of Demoncrats, having a photo of a guy with a Mexican flag in front of a burning car is bad.

jo-el.bsky.social•8 days ago

It’s also a logical fallacy. You don’t debate fallacies, you slap them down

queenbeejdl.bsky.social•8 days ago

You can do that. And if that happens on the news in front of a burning car with a Mexican /Palestinian flag waving guy, there will be a lot of people in PA who think there’s a riot and they’re coming here next. Vote Trump for safety!

jo-el.bsky.social•8 days ago

So the problem is the messenger sensationalizing the facts on the ground and not the message?

Got it.

queenbeejdl.bsky.social•8 days ago

The messengers need to be smarter so we don’t end up in a foreign gulag.

queenbeejdl.bsky.social•8 days ago

The problem is the Trump admin and their state media taking the images out of context and tricking the general public. You can’t see that?

jo-el.bsky.social•8 days ago

Rather than saying m: they’re lying to you and pushing a racist theory.

It’s m, again, placating racism

thebookofsam.bsky.social•8 days ago

@radiofreetom.bsky.social I noticed you just blocked my other account because I posted a video agreeing with you or at least that was my intention.

I’m not sure what could have provoked the blocking but I’ve never known you to block instead of discuss so my apologies for the offense.

jennerzi.bsky.social•8 days ago

This is absurd. By your standards, there is no point trying. People like Tom need to tuck themselves away in old libraries. We'll tell him when it's safe to come out.

gvfortunato.bsky.social•8 days ago

American politics is not symmetric

psgarak.bsky.social•8 days ago

Also: Those images DO hurt Trump. I wish they hurt him more, but regardless of how much they do, I don't think it's good to provide the people defending those images with a counter argument.

oliverlibaw.bsky.social•8 days ago

I think this is an important, very painful fact.

oliverlibaw.bsky.social•8 days ago

And while I'm foolishly sharing opinions on social media...

I think the argument is more "to prevail, we have to persuade people who have different (perhaps not awesome) values and sensibilities" than "let's all just pander and appease racists."

makuatherton.bsky.social•8 days ago

Yes, that is EXACTLY the argument. 👍

oliverlibaw.bsky.social•8 days ago

heynow.... if people are going to start having reasonable and pleasant interactions on social media, it's gonna lure me into posting more often.

and that can't be a good idea, can it???

darwinwoodka.bsky.social•8 days ago

MAGAs enjoy being told what to do, Democrats are fucking cats, you can't herd them

winniethewitch.bsky.social•8 days ago

Perhaps. But I'm not sure a photo op by Kate Perry is so far outside the American mainstream!

we-are-toast.bsky.social•8 days ago

They don't have a "coalition", they have a cult. If anyone thinks we ought to use the same techniques to influence non cultists as they use to manipulate their cult, I think they might want to learn a bit more about political strategy.

mikeilikemike.bsky.social•8 days ago

Yes, it’s kinda pointless if we create the same dynamic they have, isn’t it?

the-endgame.bsky.social•8 days ago

ahem.

https://bsky.app/profile/wihorne.bsky.social/post/3lrdw247av223

realt-man.bsky.social•7 days ago

Strong "Normals don't get the same consideration as crooks and traitors bc your country is a shithole" vibe. Not wrong, but the take is the message.

wickit411.bsky.social•8 days ago

I know life isn't fair. With that being said, it would be helpful if you could post a pic of Lily today. Thanks in advance.

davekearnjr.bsky.social•8 days ago

Honestly hard to fathom why this is so difficult. 🤷🏻‍♂️

hyperthermostatic.bsky.social•8 days ago

In 2025 to still lean on the lazy, tired "life's not fair" line to our rapidly changed demographic is a bit much Tom. When then are the rest of us supposed to attain that equal footing guaranteed by OUR inalienable rights?? Rights like those this gentleman fought for? Also Bruce Hornsby says hi.

equinas.bsky.social•8 days ago

I think part of it is that MAGA has FOX which never shows the white nationalist confederate displays, but if someone writes black-lives-matter on the sidewalk in D.C they show it five times a day for months. Some Trump voters think the white nationalist stuff is fabricated by the left.

darwinwoodka.bsky.social•8 days ago

It has the type of people who are willing to sit there and watch fucking Fox, too

olliejasper.bsky.social•8 days ago

Exactly. We don’t get to choose our lot in life. Easier if you’re born rich, intelligent, attractive, athletic, healthy, male and white. Almost impossible if you’re poor, stupid, ugly, weak, sickly, female and brown.

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