Accusing people of slander when they call powerful folks to account for bigoted views against the marginalized is something I think Tom would disagree with on principle. But I haven’t read his book and if he keeps platforming John, I don’t think I will.
Do you understand that not everyone agrees with your assessment he's a good man, and that the mere act of disagreeing with you doesn't rise to the level of slander or libel? It's an opinion.
The more people say this shit in support of this allegedly anti-tyranny book, the less goodwill I extend.
JK Rowling & the Harry Potter thing is an absolute s*** show, but we need to stop throwing everyone who even touched the franchise in the same bucket. I understand the desire to want to boycott the anti-trans woman, but we can't Unite if people keep dividing over silly nonsense like an acting gig.
I don't believe a lot of people are throwing them in the same bucket, but it's worth noting that Lithgow is at every opportunity making clear that's the bucket *he* prefers. He's certainly not climbing in the bucket with his friend and their trans child -- "Heavens, no!"
Please stop letting the perfect be the enemy of good because an actor took a role. We don't need any more division. I'm 1000% supportive of equality for ALL, but we aren't going to be able to kill Fascism while your busy pursuing messaging perfection.
Look, straight-up anti-trans, or any bigotry shouldn't be tolerated, & I was unaware of how defensive Lithgow was of the JK b****...
but there is something to be said about guilt by association going too far... not in this case perhaps, but, dude we got Nazis 😕
"guilt by asssociation" applies to stuff, like, i dunno, being pals with someone who turned out to be shit, not taking a role in a production that materially benefits someone who is shit, has publicly been shit for years, and openly says they take support of their work as support of them being shit
anyone who willingly involves themselves with HP at this point is categorically unworthy of my respect, let alone trust, it really is as simple as that
And then doubling and tripling down on defending that person. Like Lithgow didn't just take the role, he's repeatedly defended that position/JKR, including claiming a friend of his with a trans child begged him to reconsider.
It's much, much worse than "guilty by association."
Too true. I'm incredibly disappointed in Lithgow. I didn't see his comments till now. He tried to walk the line & use the artist shield, but it's all obvious bull$***.
Neil deGrasse Tyson is also coming out as a giant disappointment. Why are all our heroes failing us? Or at least mine are lately...
Lithgow isn't Rowling, and -- as far as we know -- he's not a Nazi, but what he is still make him not a great choice to be the the voice of anti-tyranny. This is a particularly weird and tone-deaf use of this actor if you want to entice people to click the link or buy the book.
discussion a couple days ago admitting I was tempted to read the book, but that this affiliation made me pass up one opportunity to do so.
I'm not really still tempted because so many of the people who read it, who argue it's wonderful, are arguing for things I assume would be antithetical.
I'm not even talking about you specifically when I say I'm sick of hearing arguments that amount to support of the trans community is holding us back. That suggests they're acceptable collateral damage. Or "strong, so they'll be fine."
I'm sorry but we're past the point where we can dismiss trans people's concerns about our freedoms and rights as "divisive". Fascists have gone all-in on an anti-trans eliminationist campaign. People who tolerate or defend that campaign while claiming to be anti-fascist are the ones sowing division.
I'd like to give Lithgow the benefit of the doubt, but unless he disavows Rowling's views, it's not looking too great. He has only spoken in support of her approach to dealing with the trans community-- an approach which is dehumanizing, fascistic, and murderous taken to its logical conclusions
I wouldn't be able to not denounce her in his place, unless I agreed. I want to see a reporter ask directly his personal views, but I suspect they're not allowed so he can kinda keep it ambiguous.
Rowling can claim she thinks the actors have a right to their opinions, but she'd have kittens if Dumbledore loudly affirmed his belief in trans rights. Started wearing a pin to interviews.
The little girl that was a big fan of his inside of me wants to hope that he just doesn't understand somehow... but to the adult me it is an obvious mask of professionalism & "Artistry" he hides behind... Sad.
I understand your point. He has been less than verbal about his support of anti-trans (though he is a supporter of that POS JK). I made this comment before I realized how much he had defended that terrible woman.
It was a poor choice to have him read. & The Nazis are/will target(ing) ALL minorities.
It has nothing to do with taking the role. It has to do with the fact that he praised and defended the author.
You don’t kill fascism by defending fascism and Lino g the pockets of one of the world’s most prolific fascists. If Lithgow defended Trump & started working for him, you’d condemn it
The message sent in this video has absolutely nothing to do with JK rowling, Harry potter, lgbtq+ or anything else of the sort.
We cannot fight puritanicalism with puritanicalism 🙄
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The more people say this shit in support of this allegedly anti-tyranny book, the less goodwill I extend.
maybe don't blame the people being marginalised for creating "division" by not making nice with those complicit in their marginalisation.
but there is something to be said about guilt by association going too far... not in this case perhaps, but, dude we got Nazis 😕
It's much, much worse than "guilty by association."
Neil deGrasse Tyson is also coming out as a giant disappointment. Why are all our heroes failing us? Or at least mine are lately...
I started this
I'm not really still tempted because so many of the people who read it, who argue it's wonderful, are arguing for things I assume would be antithetical.
That one seriously hurt the star nerd in me.
It was a poor choice to have him read. & The Nazis are/will target(ing) ALL minorities.
You don’t kill fascism by defending fascism and Lino g the pockets of one of the world’s most prolific fascists. If Lithgow defended Trump & started working for him, you’d condemn it
We cannot fight puritanicalism with puritanicalism 🙄
Also, what? LGBTI people are often the primary victims of fascism, along with Jews.
It is insanely evil to call minorities objecting to those who wish to strip them of civil rights “puritanical”.