Are you vegan? If not, your comment is ignorant and hypocritical. While everyone relies on bees and other pollinators for crops, that does not justify consuming meat, dairy, eggs, or honey, which exploit animals even more. If you care about bees, reflect on your own choices instead of deflecting.
That's where 'avoid' comes in. It's like fertilisers etc. We can't avoid everything all of the time we can only do our best within the system we are working to change.
No product obtained through the exploitation of bees is necessary. We don’t need honey or any other bee-derived product, especially when their production interferes with the natural lives of these essential pollinators...
@herbivoreclub.bsky.social, so many excuses and deflections, so many victims. Why is it so difficult for some people to move past their egocentrism and human supremacist tendencies?
Psychological protection. Most don't like the idea that they are doing awful things and could easily not with small initial effort for that long term clear conscience. Intellectual honesty is a huge part. Tell me I'm wrong, and I'll ask if you have a point, a lot of people don't do that.
Just curious? With respect, it seems like a lure to flush vegetarians out into the open to be attacked/ told why they’re wrong/ pointed to links/ films etc. It’s already happening on the thread. I imagine people are vegetarian for a huge number of different reasons, all of which we can all imagine.
Yes, sure, but if I were a vegetarian I wouldn’t reply to the post because it looks like a trap! The vegetarian would say something like ‘I don’t like killing animals’ and 100 vegans would jump on them to tell them they are evil and they participate in animal torture. They must know already, right?
I think the question being posed is likely effective enough. As you said, they probably already know that the dairy & egg industries are slaughter industries (that depend on infanticide to be profitable). That said, they should be more honest as per it being a simple dietary choice vs ethical stance
I stopped meat & dairy before new century 😁 a few years later I ran into an old friend who told me a few things I didn't realize: vegan shoes, hidden milk in In 2010 I went fully cruelty free. March will be my 15th veganniversary 🌱 25 yrs veggie. I'm 60 no excuses.
When I was vegetarian I didn't do a lot of research and didn't think deeply about the potential harm to animals used for dairy and eggs. To be fair, I was pretty young when I went vegetarian and I always wonder what stops adults from digging deeper when they realize the cruelty in meat farming.
I became vegetarian at 18 because I wanted to live in nonviolent life. I didn’t even know the word Vegan then but of course I am vegan now and have been for 24 years.
I was told in ‘92 by someone younger than I am now that it was “too difficult to go vegan”. Sadly I believed them, and it took me another 26 years before finally ditching the dairy and egg. The biggest “difficulty” is always with/from others and never yourself.
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