Good. They should be, any game developers or publishers of ant size should avoid generative AI like the plague. You know why? Because GenAI is the aesthetic of the asset flip, it's what every piece of shovelware on Steam looks like now, it will make your game look cheap and stink of shovelware. - ThreadSky

caseyexplosion.bsky.social • 3 days ago

Good. They should be, any game developers or publishers of ant size should avoid generative AI like the plague. You know why? Because GenAI is the aesthetic of the asset flip, it's what every piece of shovelware on Steam looks like now, it will make your game look cheap and stink of shovelware.

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neuralstunner.bsky.social•3 days ago

Genuinely surprises me to see EA take this stance. (Tho less so that they're more worried about harm to themselves than "it's wrong".)

chimerachimera.bsky.social•3 days ago

One of the things I love about working in Unreal Engine is nowadays you can actually filter out the Ai garbage, and as an asset creator you can even specify that what you're selling can't even be used in a project with Ai stuff

There's so many free assets I don't get why people use Ai for that

redvedev.bsky.social•3 days ago

I’m assuming it also presents a very obvious legal minefield if their AI just so happens to scrape and use data & assets and even art direction from already established games? If I were a dev I know I wouldn’t touch it with a forty foot pole for that alone

spaceds8008s.bsky.social•3 days ago

Given that big publishers are scared, you'd think zun wouldn't run his mouth like he did yesterday. Not a big touhou fan, but that really sucked to learn about. Insta loss of respect.

browndoggy756.bsky.social•2 days ago

lemme guess did you read the losers' translation?

adrianwarlock.bsky.social•3 days ago

If a company isn't even going to make the game themselves, why should I pay so much for it? I could just go generate the game myself then.

jarlent.bsky.social•3 days ago

If they were at least being creative with it and having AI do things humans can't do you could sell it

Even like, taking AI and using that to create an NPC that *Actually* responds to what your character says, no pre-scripted lines, would be SOMETHING

But no, just "fire all the artists"

loranskunky.bsky.social•3 days ago

Maximize the profits they can make by getting rid of the creative team.

nsar.bsky.social•3 days ago

This is so true. Even if you’re the most pro ai person in the world, it just makes your product look Cheap. It’ll probably waste more time trying to make it look good than just hiring a person anyway lol

littlebirdbasil.bsky.social•2 days ago

im sure im not the only one who dropped paradox after seeing a generative ai use disclosure on one of the stellaris dlc pages

reynafox.bsky.social•3 days ago

Now I wonder if the negative stereotype of generated stuff will spread from there. With classic asset flips there's no general equivalent, but genai does have that equivalent everywhere. I hope this'll just be one angle from which we can get some coffin nails.

redskull87.bsky.social•3 days ago

"corpo is afraid". Good. Make that work in every aspect of life.

timewarpjf.bsky.social•3 days ago

I mean the fact they're so scared to use A.I in case we leave shows that we do have real power we can utilize to get what we want.

caseyexplosion.bsky.social•3 days ago

The worst slop that's clogging up online storefronts is all generative AI image slurry, and that's the association you're inviting, that's the connection you're making, and your customers will pick up on that. Like it or not, that's the kind of product that's taken to AI in droves.

dragondenton.bsky.social•3 days ago

At the same time it's depressing cause the AI slop is based on a few styles done by real humans, which is where they stole it from. Which means those artists do get confused for AI slop, or at the least, their art is treated as cheap and unpleasant due to the burnout caused by AI doing cheap-

dragondenton.bsky.social•3 days ago

-copies of it everywhere.

Tho when ignoring that, yeah AI definitely started getting some tells that are a bit more unique to themselves, and on top of that, what we predicted that people will notice it as samey and cheap with time... is already happening right now.

caseyexplosion.bsky.social•3 days ago

It makes your product look cheap.

pyrosshade.bsky.social•3 days ago

It hangs a sign on your studio that says "We have no creative integrity, or shame!"

caseyexplosion.bsky.social•3 days ago

I just noticed the typo. What is this, a game development studio for ants!?

mjfgates.bsky.social•3 days ago

Ants deserve high-quality videogames! And also tiny little controllers.

hesster56.bsky.social•3 days ago

We’re so back, baby!

mcnutcase.bsky.social•3 days ago

What a surprise that low effort slop has gone hard for the low effort slop machine...

ananimegiraffe.bsky.social•3 days ago

Also using llm to write infinite quests or whatever just invites freaks to immediately try to use it to get your npcs to talk about hitler so they can make YouTube videos. What possible benefit could cdpr or Bethesda or ea find in that

chapyguy.bsky.social•3 days ago

I'm hopeful for Wayward Realms, but the devs talking about how they're using an LLM to help with filling in the world has me really worried. Use of any "AI" or LLM should just be avoided all together, and I doubt their use of it will change my opinion

acharky.bsky.social•3 days ago

It is morally correct to bully executives of big companies.

neuralstunner.bsky.social•3 days ago

A lways
B ully
C orporations

robotoncoffee.bsky.social•3 days ago

Corps wanted to be treated like people legally so they deserve to be shoved in lockers like the fucking nerds they are.

mikedg0.bsky.social•3 days ago

Using AI is more toxic than ending DEI now. SMH 😒

meganerd20.bsky.social•3 days ago

I don't mind asset flips, they can be good or funny-bad. At least those assets were made by people so it's leagues better than AI. Asset flip looks... cheap, but in a 'starting out' way. AI looks cheap in a 'not trying' way.

vifs-vestige.bsky.social•3 days ago

good

secondthrowaway.bsky.social•3 days ago

there's a *long* list of things EA should have concerned themselves with years ago if they were concerned with losing confidence and faith in their brand

starting with the long list of closed studios

chester66red.bsky.social•3 days ago

And series they wrecked and cancelled

jack-eliza.bsky.social•3 days ago

it's always blah blah i hate shovelware until he shows up you liberals have no principles
/jk

wildartsdevs.bsky.social•3 days ago

e x a c t l y 👏 If the environmental cost and the ethical issues don't convince you, at least there's that!

demoargenti.bsky.social•3 days ago

And even if or when it starts to look better, people will still hate it because of the ethics and shit. As they should.

shehergayboy.bsky.social•3 days ago

Maybe it's naive but this is how I think the AI business will shake out; an identifiable mark of cheapness that everyone will think is cringe and emblematic of an era. Maybe in 30 years kids will start to look at it as retro and we'll be horrified but that's for the future

jack-eliza.bsky.social•3 days ago

i agree fully which is why it hits me like cold water every time an obviously AI-gen meme shows up on my discover feed

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