Also, I should note, I am saying that in this circumstance forbearance is *effective* which isn't the same as saying it is fair or necessarily just. It is the shortest road to a just outcome, but true justice will need to involve some accountability for many of these ICE goons. - ThreadSky

bretdevereaux.bsky.social • 17 days ago

Also, I should note, I am saying that in this circumstance forbearance is *effective* which isn't the same as saying it is fair or necessarily just. It is the shortest road to a just outcome, but true justice will need to involve some accountability for many of these ICE goons.

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paringpro.bsky.social•17 days ago

Sure. But the LAPD's flexibility and cross-pressures here are exactly why "forbearance" might be more flexible than we expect. They know there's stuff to nitpick, and maybe on Day 60 they will. But right now it's the feds who look bad and can't count on their support for expanding the confrontation

paringpro.bsky.social•17 days ago

As for the Mexican flag - the use of foreign flags to represent local minorities is very very well established. If it's objectionable here, then its display has a rhetorical, not just emotional, purpose. It says - I will not be shamed for my heritage. I will live in this country with honor.

paringpro.bsky.social•17 days ago

One of the most important holidays in the Haitian calendar? Flag Day. If these people are ashamed of their flag then JD Vance will have successfully bolted his inane qualifiers onto Americanness

So my problem with the Mexican flag is that it's not just Mexicans in LA. More flags. And the US one.

bretdevereaux.bsky.social•17 days ago

To be clear about my standpoint, I have no problem with folks being proud of their communities, from wherever they may have come. That's America, and it is glorious.

However, I also know that in a lot of the country, non-American flags play *very* poorly as optics.

paringpro.bsky.social•17 days ago

We'll see how it turns out. But the parts of the country most unfamiliar with foreignness (or who have forgotten why their ancestors preferred the empty Great Plains over the cities!), can't achieve a majority alone. And traitors to American civitas like Miller will make themselves more unpopular

paringpro.bsky.social•17 days ago

Their vibe shift was never real. No reason to act like it is.

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