It was ALSO only 13 states, no overseas territories, did not have a standing military, was saddled with enormous war debt, and the major industry was farming, largely supported by slave labor. I know techbros are fucking illiterates, but goddammit, read some history for fucking once. - ThreadSky | a Reddit-style client for Bluesky

hipcrimevocab.net • 83 days ago

It was ALSO only 13 states, no overseas territories, did not have a standing military, was saddled with enormous war debt, and the major industry was farming, largely supported by slave labor. I know techbros are fucking illiterates, but goddammit, read some history for fucking once.

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Musk: When the United States was formed, there were only secretary of state, secretary of war, secretary of the treasury and attorney general. That was it. If it were up to me, I would say let's make it like that again.

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andygriscom.bsky.social•83 days ago

Also the opposition to the standing military was why the word ‘militia’ featured so prominently in a couple of key places.

lawcreep.bsky.social•83 days ago

The same people that want to be THE global superpower (per Signalgate, the only actor who could do the strike) also want to dismantle the research system, tax regime, and administrative apparatus that make that possible. A nuclear power couldn't exist with the 1789 Constitution.

libertybelle42.bsky.social•83 days ago

Also, the population was ~1% of current.

uscivilwar.bsky.social•83 days ago

Unfortunately, he was reading South African history.

msemilystarot.bsky.social•83 days ago

I think they’d be okay with most of that, especially if the US military was shrunk and replaced by Blackwater/Wagner style mercs under their control. Or war droids.

And if you count the chunk that Bush borrowed off SocSec and was never repaid back to taxpayers, the USA STILL has enormous war debts.

platoniano.bsky.social•83 days ago

Es el tío que pone el dinero, no es un tecnólogo o un ingeniero, si fuera ingeniero sabría que un mecanismo o un sistema complejo que ha evolucionado durante años, se ha vuelto grande y complejo por las necesidades de su función. Musk es un simple comercial que solo entiende cosas simples

hipcrimevocab.net•82 days ago

Claro que si.

quoipas.bsky.social•82 days ago

Who would ever listen to this idiot’s views on American history?

maurscode.bsky.social•83 days ago

Who even listens to him?! What are they cheering?

hipcrimevocab.net•83 days ago

this is why I have this attitude

toddforsaken.bsky.social•83 days ago

Also, which of those four positions is Musk?

harper41.bsky.social•83 days ago

He knows. He also knows he has massive investments to protect, & an audience of doorknobs.

comoxtips.bsky.social•83 days ago

And the life expectancy was 40, the child mortality and maternal mortality rates were through the roof, there was no social safety net so people worked til they died, women and minorities had zero rights, and they believed in witches. Definitely not the good old days.

bbbminis.bsky.social•83 days ago

There was also no plumbing or sanitation and you could die from tooth decay. And smallpox was the leading cause of death. But hey, who needs vaccines?

jasoncross.org•83 days ago

There were also less than 3 million people, total.

jasoncross.org•83 days ago

Oh, and FULLY open borders. Like, totally open.

greyallday.bsky.social•83 days ago

It's not up to you, fuckwit. Everyone knows you bought yourself an inflated orange clown with the promise that you could remake government into your ketamine-fever dream. There was also: No internet; No electricity; No mass media; No space or air travel (I could go on, but why). Go away.

julwiki.bsky.social•83 days ago

And Philadelphia was the biggest city and was...what... 5 thousand people? 10 thousand?

damccaig.bsky.social•83 days ago

Not to mention only 2.5 million people in 1776 - the size of a medium city by today’s standards!

hipcrimevocab.net•83 days ago

The focus on STEM-only education has ruined your fucking minds. READ A BOOK.

madammem.bsky.social•82 days ago

Many don't understand STEM either.

Many of them are good at selling an idea, they have no fucking clue if it is a good idea or even a feasible idea.

Welcome to pitching for venture capital funding.

edwalker.bsky.social•83 days ago

Nothing worth knowing happened before last week.

darkglade.bsky.social•83 days ago

And a population of how many?

Part of the reason the bureaucracy has grown is because serving more people, SHOCK HORROR, takes more... people.

skiskamp.bsky.social•83 days ago

And that South African NAZI-Wannabe would not have gotten one cent in government subsidies for ANY of his companies.

readmorenerd.bsky.social•83 days ago

he can't read and he doesn't have the attention span to listen to anyone else for 20 seconds.

jonsternfeld.bsky.social•83 days ago

He is a criminally stupid person.

slackermom.bsky.social•83 days ago

Yes! And the number of people who think he’s a fucking genius is literally insane.

darkglade.bsky.social•83 days ago

Fortunately a lot more people have started to finally figure this out...

jonsternfeld.bsky.social•83 days ago

He did a good job marketing himself as one but no one with a brain can possibly think that for real.

mijo70.bsky.social•83 days ago

Before the bill of rights right, asshole? You know without due process co president Leon

basketpackage.bsky.social•82 days ago

And this guy is supposed to be smart ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

historiken.bsky.social•83 days ago

dude can't even read a strategy guide

hmsgreengoose.bsky.social•83 days ago

Also, the American Revolution was a mistake.

hmsgreengoose.bsky.social•83 days ago

Who cares what an apartheid South African thinks about government?

How can this even be happening??🤯

bdanks.bsky.social•83 days ago

Musk is probably the best and most disastrous example of the Halo effect. Just because he is super rich doesn’t mean he understands how government organizations function. He has no expertise in this area. None. All of this is going to end very, very badly for America.

markspotsthex.bsky.social•83 days ago

It should come as no one's surprise that a white South African would yearn for times where apartheid was generally accepted.

chipalope.bsky.social•82 days ago

The population of the US in 1776 was 2.5 million. So maybe more people are required for a larger population and a more complex world.

gianttigerkitty.bsky.social•83 days ago

Fucking A right. Every day those people reveal their utter ignorance of American history.

cybourg.bsky.social•83 days ago

Also the VP was the runner up in the presidential contest

melodyvonrock.bsky.social•83 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/jennycohn.bsky.social/post/3llmpd5vqbc27

sababausa.bsky.social•83 days ago

He doesn’t want to eliminate all the functions of a modern state, he wants to privatize these functions & make them accountable only to the rich (himself especially) and not to the people

hrimhari.bsky.social•83 days ago

And their experience made them go "hey, maybe we do need to have a centralised government with a bureaucracy, it's hard to do this modern nation thing without it"

sorrows42.bsky.social•83 days ago

Let’s go back in time when there’s slavery and women and people of color can’t vote - is what I hear

rozd.bsky.social•83 days ago

He's basically saying he wants slavery back.

musikpirat.bsky.social•83 days ago

There was also no Doge…

tspeck.bsky.social•83 days ago

Why is he telling Americans how to American?

izzydew.bsky.social•83 days ago

Because he is S African and his family supported apartheid, and his extended Canadian family supported Hitler. His whole background is about white men ruling the world. Where everyone, not white or male, are beneath him and matters not. His money has only exacerbated his fked up world view

hipcrimevocab.net•83 days ago

Because he's an egotistical prick

mfreeman.bsky.social•83 days ago

“Whiskey, leeches, prayer” made up the medical manual too so no need for health agencies.

hipcrimevocab.net•83 days ago

it will again with RFK Jr's influence.

toldyousodammit.bsky.social•83 days ago

Notice, too, Eloon, how there wasn’t an apartheid diamond-blood money immigrant brat buying elections and chainsawing his way through all of our federal employees but giving HIMSELF huge government contracts and stealing peoples SS numbers and bank accounts and health data? Let’s do that again!!