Please note that if you use "prime minister elect" to refer to Mark Carney, a Canadian constitutional scholar will come to your home and smash your windows.
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Opinions on Rosemary Barton saying earlier that Mark Carney, the 24th Prime Minister of Canada, will soon be its 25th Prime Minister? Straight to jail, or excusable live broadcast flub?
Americans dont care how our elections work, or any other countries elections.
They are ignorant to anything outside their country.
They think we live in igloos and we are communist .
Just ask the over 55 Americans.
Serious question: are there scholars of the Canadian constitution younger than age 50? And is being a quantum physicist and expert in necromancy a precondition for the title?
So the joke here is that Carney is PM, not PM-elect. He has never stepped down from being PM, and we don't have a PM-elect.
When a PM does step down (for losing an election) the GG picks a PM, who must then win a vote of confidence. The closest to "elect" would be "presumed next".
The humour is that canadian constitutional scholars are going to tell you you are wrong if you use elect but using far less violent means than described - an exaggeration for comic effect.
It is actually a cute joke. You just need to know a bit of canadian consitutional law to get it.
I do know Canadian law, but I guess I misunderstood. I've been getting a lot of hate comments and it's hard to distinguish the difference. Thanks for explaining.
Think of the House of Commons as the House of Representatives. We each elect one person, our Member of Parliament. Usually what happens is that the party with the most MP's forms government.
BUT with minority govs, it's possible to have coalition governments. So that gets complicated
It's mostly conservative pundits that'll tell you coalitions are anti-democratic etc... but they are a perfectly legit move in any Parliamentary democracy. Canadians don't vote for a Prime Minister, unless you happen to live in a party leader's riding (ie: electoral district)
Oh also unlike in the US, ridings have names, not just numbers. They're rejiggered every 10 years with the total number increasing as the population grows. And we have a neutral body (Elections Canada) to help make sure no gerrymandering shenanigans happen
Yes! So if the party wins but the party leader loses the election their riding, then I think they have to have a special election in another riding where the party won, displacing that MP.
If THAT election loses... well, they always pick a riding that's 500% safe, so it's never happened so far :)
We don’t elect our prime ministers directly. A Canadian election is actually 343 separate elections. Whichever party wins the most of those 343 elections forms the new government, & their leader is the prime minister. (Part of this is constitutional & part tradition.
Yes,same as in the UK. It also means PM's can be replaced by replacing the leader of the majority party eg if they lose a Parliamentary vote of no confidence.
Cont. ...172 "ridings" gives a majority government. Anything less, a minority government can be formed by working (somewhat) cooperatively with another party.
There's lots smarter than me in here to better explain it but basically -he already IS Prime Minister. We don't have 'terms', basically MPs assume their role in Parliament upon being elected. If Poilievre had been projected as PM, he would assume the office basically straight away - not months later
Not until sworn in if it was someone other than Carney had won. So, there would be a PM-designate for 12-ish hours... Which, to be fair, IS basically straight away. But since there's no change - there's no 'designate' or 'elect'...
Hope you got your answer, but ICYMI — we don't vote for our Prime Minister, we vote for a local representative. Whichever party has the most local representatives elected, gets to form government.
We elect a party, and the party has a leader. We don't have a "PM elect".
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Latest count - 161 seats. (out of 172 for the majority)
They are still counting...
They are ignorant to anything outside their country.
They think we live in igloos and we are communist .
Just ask the over 55 Americans.
Maybe the First Nations tribes in Nunavut do, but I know most of Canada is too warm for Igloos year round.
You live in cities and towns, same as any other country really.
To do the rounds.
On the constitutional pedantry.
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They would slowly deflate your tires over many weeks.
a cyclist would have a presta valve tool, ready at 3 milliseconds notice.
Only non cyclists would pick a shrader as their weapon.
Some of my best friends are valves.
There is a third way, the Church of Schwalbe have proclaimed the future as the Click Valve.
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(On the other hand, I'm not one of those weirdos who insists on saying leftenant and karki.)
When a PM does step down (for losing an election) the GG picks a PM, who must then win a vote of confidence. The closest to "elect" would be "presumed next".
It is actually a cute joke. You just need to know a bit of canadian consitutional law to get it.
BUT with minority govs, it's possible to have coalition governments. So that gets complicated
If THAT election loses... well, they always pick a riding that's 500% safe, so it's never happened so far :)
All I can offer in return is my gratitude and uh
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(The PM would ask one of their MPs in a safe seat to resign, and then run in the resulting election.)
We elect a party, and the party has a leader. We don't have a "PM elect".
And, as others pointed out, PM Mark Carney is the incumbent. The second reason he is not the PM elect because he is the current and continuing PM.
As far as I know that would be inaccurate because he was the Prime Minister *already,* so the election is just a reaffirmation.
Freely admit I may be misunderstanding that, but that's what it seems like to me from what I can tell and what little I do know.