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mollyjongfast.bsky.social • 223 days ago

Important point from Lydia

I’m all for the Democrats embracing populism and ditching neoliberalism. I just want someone to explain how that works in a post-Citizens United environment. Dem populist hero Sherrod Brown was beaten by a Mercedes dealer in Ohio because he was swamped by crypto super pac cash.

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oeishik.bsky.social•223 days ago

There is an answer, but I don't think Americans have the patience for it. We need service leadership. We need grassroots movements & grassroots media like your podcast & others. And we need leaders to be inclusive of regular Americans & not just elites. https://youtube.com/live/9Zk-wacS800?feature=share

coloneltom.bsky.social•223 days ago

You’ve bought into the GOP framing of anyone who rises into Dem leadership or office as an “elite.” That gets us nowhere.

kroe14.bsky.social•223 days ago

You ignore or don’t see the original poster’s point. Sherrod Brown is a textbook example of an anti-elite.

hammertime419.bsky.social•223 days ago

That's not why Sherrod Brown lost. Y'all really haven't talked with or listened to anyone from the state of Ohio. Out of touch. If you want to know why Sherrod Brown lost...feel free to reach out.

mgobluesky.bsky.social•223 days ago

I'm listening...please explain. Thanks

coloneltom.bsky.social•223 days ago

Alas, I think we will need to pick our own billionaire champion.

freirich.bsky.social•223 days ago

Too true.
Populism is not enough.
We must embrace a politics of freedom for people.

tanjamcconnor.bsky.social•223 days ago

With so many billionaires supporting fascism ... what is our chance?

funpotatomail.bsky.social•223 days ago

Fuckn exactly!

shawnguerra.bsky.social•223 days ago

Well any Rep. who won would have to have their own money. Lara certainly didn’t part with any

sharon43302.bsky.social•222 days ago

I think most people are too lazy even to fact-check. They just believe anything told to them. They accept at face value what is told from the pulpit to Fox News.

bushwacked.bsky.social•223 days ago

Not to mention the verbal barrage streaming from
MSM's post mortem and their failure to point that "little" factoid out. Those super pacs can be funded from anywhere... I'm still w HRC... all roads lead to moscow.

rootsafoot.bsky.social•223 days ago

Can we also use an AI “truthbot” to seek our lies and attach corrective truth posts? Or sort out which ones need immediate human attention, spot when a meme is being pushed and counter, things like that?

rootsafoot.bsky.social•223 days ago

We lost the battle because of lies blasted to incurious folks,
most people. We need to pivot and flood TikTok, gambling, YouTube etc screens with short, fun, high end, clever work that tells the truth. Trump lost 2 million jobs, Biden created 13 million and brought manufacturing back, boom, done.

fenderputty.bsky.social•223 days ago

I mean, look at the state. It could be argued he would have lost by more if he wasn’t the populist he is

thereelrandom.bsky.social•223 days ago

How do we fight dark money if we reject the need for dark money of our own?

The misinformation monster that Citizens United has unleashed requires us to fight fire with fire or burn.

secularfundie.bsky.social•223 days ago

Ive been thinking about that a lot, and I think the angle that can be used is "corruption."

We all remember the first four years of Trump and the constant corruption.

We need outlets like the Intercept and ProPublica to report it and our own mouthpieces to just hammer it home.

secularfundie.bsky.social•223 days ago

The more of those #maga people that take these offices, the more corruption there will be.

Corporate media is uniquely awful at investigative journalism (intentionally) - we need outlets that will find the rot and other outlets that will keep hammering home how pervasive it is.

kimoralynn.bsky.social•223 days ago

@mollyjongfast.bsky.social look at what he says here.

secularfundie.bsky.social•223 days ago

The beauty of the corruption angle is that you can't call it "unAmerican"... Whenever money and politics intersect, The odds are extremely high that corruption is in the room as well.

As long as you go after both parties and you have evidence, people may balk on the right but the courts will not.

secularfundie.bsky.social•223 days ago

High level, mid level, low level, Dem, Republican, Independent, all of them: trust in the outlet(s) that expose(s) them will increase over time, and I can absolutely guarantee you that more #maga would be captured in the net than otherwise.

That's my Ted talk 😁 - now to figure out how to do it.

mwilk19.bsky.social•223 days ago

We have the best government money can buy. I have to laugh when people say Trump won by attacking the “elites”. Where did all those billionaires who back him make their money, selling moonshine and sewing quilts?

ninjakick.bsky.social•223 days ago

In the nation’s only campaign finance reform initiative on the ballot on Election Day, residents voted to cap individual donations to super PACs at $5,000.

https://apnews.com/article/maine-referendum-super-pac-donation-limits-dccfd8f49c4337b1d9e7053a0e3a4fef

wrathofrance.bsky.social•223 days ago

I certainly don't want to be around when the crypto earthquake blanks these guys' bravado.

theyakofresistance.bsky.social•223 days ago

We're going to have to pick a true fighter with no political motives to simply put out the fires and right the ship of State. I don't see this coming from countless ActBlue text messages or a Democratic bureaucrat. We need a more outspoken, smarter, quasi-celebrity. We need a Zelensky to rise up.

theyakofresistance.bsky.social•223 days ago

It will take a fighter who shows their mettle in how they defend this country from the oncoming zombie fascist hordes. Our next hope comes from a person with a sidearm, sense of leadership, and knowledge of the land.

2me2.bsky.social•223 days ago

The crypto bros were out in full force this election cycle. I have not seen any reporting anywhere on it. John Deaton in MA crypto backed, Ohio guy crypto backed...who else?

thatliberaljezebel.bsky.social•223 days ago

I was absolutely flabbergasted to see Sherrid Brown lose his race. His opponent is a scumbag.

rockyintx.bsky.social•222 days ago

TechBrosInc 🤬🤬🤬

jupiter151.bsky.social•223 days ago

Misinformation

potusjbuchanan.bsky.social•223 days ago

I think the Dems are going to struggle until the electorate realizes the Trump populism was merely a Trojan horse for the same consolidate wealth and power in the super rich policies. I suspect they’ll need a T. Roosevelt type figure and stop shooting themselves in the foot with culture war issues.

woke-mob.bsky.social•223 days ago

I think we have to go nuclear here. Nonstop demonize the billionaires - "elon bought this election for Trump and then flushed the country down the toilet." Propose massive wealth redistribution AS WEALTH to seed a new 401k-like social security. 1/2

woke-mob.bsky.social•223 days ago

If Elon's $44bn for Twitter were contributed to such a fund instead, 44,000 working Americans would have $1 million in their retirement accounts. This massive concentration of wealth is actually destroying society. It's time to spread the wealth. 2/2

terriresists.bsky.social•223 days ago

Unfortunately, expecting anyone to contribute their wealth for distribution would have the opposite effect.

woke-mob.bsky.social•223 days ago

Opposite effect of what?

terriresists.bsky.social•223 days ago

Sorry. Misspoke. Yes, we do. But the legal and government restructuring would take years, and be impossible with the electoral college.

Changing to the popular vote would be easier, and we’d get more done. Certainly would have changed the 2016 outcome.

https://shorturl.at/Jy8tu

buckwilde1.bsky.social•223 days ago

#Bernie showed y'all how and you made fun of him. He's still telling you how to do it and you just don't listen.

Trump got the little man working vote by lying to them. Bernie got it by telling the truth. And y'all still scratching yo heads going, Golly how do we win?

boudica24.bsky.social•223 days ago

We're in a kleptocracy now.

mandysueinla.bsky.social•223 days ago

Not enough of us screamed tbe truth into their faces in front of cameras and in front of audiences. We remained too polite.

mandysueinla.bsky.social•223 days ago

I'm afraid there is no remedy for stupid, for willful, eager stupid. Russia helped but basically we're just really stupid.

gs314.bsky.social•223 days ago

Neil liberalism is the main cause with the anger of the middle-class. They have been screwed for 40 years and although GOP is mainly responsible have also been complicit.

Clearly living in an olive which makes me pessimistic that we can fix our broken system.

tlt55.bsky.social•223 days ago

‘Isms’ don’t matter any more. Leadership (or if you’re R/MAGA - ‘control’) of the country, comes from those who can throw the most money at their preferred campaign.

tripperday.bsky.social•223 days ago

Sherrod Brown deserved better but JDVance hypnotized our state
A serious loss for the country.

captspacepants.bsky.social•223 days ago

I think we can start with local initiatives and see how it goes. People when asked often wish corporate money had no place in politics and political campaigns. This assumes the judiciary isn't completely corrupt, which I wouldn't hang my hat on.

motherofmutts.bsky.social•223 days ago

I'm in Ohio. I had so much hope for our state. Feeling beyond devastated now

mutteringtomyself.bsky.social•223 days ago

Populism, simple minded self serving answers to complex problems, was once a pejorative and it needs to be restored to that distinction.

njinthehouse.bsky.social•222 days ago

Exactly.

heyohio.bsky.social•222 days ago

Ohio is going to get what it deserves. It will continue to bleed young people (even if Intel does manage to build) and the tax base is going to crash. We can look forward to another repub administration after dewine and it will continue slipping into an abyss. Rural folks are f*****. Deservedly.

kellidee13.bsky.social•223 days ago

Aw, heck, let’s just go full-on progressive and pay attention to what will help the working classes. Nothing else works.

skeeter17.bsky.social•223 days ago

How does that work in a post CU world?, it doesn’t. IMO unless the Democrats can by any means necessary fill/pack/expand the SC and overturn that horrendous ruling the America we all grew up in is gone; never coming back. I’ve seen some awful stuff in my 78 years but this is beyond disgusting.

secularfundie.bsky.social•223 days ago

That's KIND of what I was hoping Biden would have done in his first 100 Days...😮‍💨

But here we are.

skeeter17.bsky.social•223 days ago

I hate to say it but increasingly I’m wondering if the Democratic Party has any real gonads left let alone spine. Business as usual and “don’t rock the boat too much” just isn’t getting it anymore. That SC opinion of Pres immunity? Dems will never use it, Repugs WILL abuse it absolutely, get ready.

persistentpatriot.bsky.social•223 days ago

Sherrod Brown had zero chance against the crypto cretins

arinpg.bsky.social•223 days ago

Yes but he also lost because Ohio is super red.

stevebergin.bsky.social•223 days ago

Ok. Not the main reason he lost. Also, Dems need to crusade single issue bills on campaign finance, and on gerrymandering & then take on Electoral College. Not write 2 mega-bills they can't pass and that no one in the country understands. Do anti-gerrymandering 1st. Oh, it's a little late.

snarkandmeh.bsky.social•223 days ago

It’s as if Americans wanted a king and billionaire aristocrats all along. 👎

scorpion233.bsky.social•223 days ago

From its inception.

spacedude2187.bsky.social•223 days ago

A mistake might be vilifying crypto. There needs to be a deeper understanding about what cryptocurrency is and what it is not.

The crowd within crypto is very diverse. But you will always see bots and scams around it because there are vast opportunities for scammers.

The tech is sound.

kathygoshe5.bsky.social•223 days ago

And we in Ohio are still weeping in disappointment and disbelief. The constant barrage of vile attack ads on tv had kids parroting the evil language. The dark money involved in this would never have been allowed if not for the Roberts Supreme Court. With another Trump term it will never be fixed. 😢

nightmare1982.bsky.social•223 days ago

Such a great post. I feel like both doing the usual, voting, protesting, but as well as rethinking politics is needed across the board.

mustard2025.bsky.social•223 days ago

The most vehemently pro capitalism people I've met tend to be hourly workers w/o educations.

"Rent is too high".
"Okay, let's regulate the market."
"You're a socialist."

It happens to me weekly.

terriresists.bsky.social•223 days ago

Citizens United destroyed democratic processes. The end. It’s the only reason SCOTUS and trump happened. And now I need my coffee.

Going to sleep and waking up to this shit again is already old. I know we’ll survive this mess, but it’s going to be hell.

Be well. Thank you for all you do.

mgobluesky.bsky.social•223 days ago

Hang in there, Terri .....living this shit again stinks. I wish I could capitulate and not care ...but I'm starting to slowly recover.

terriresists.bsky.social•223 days ago

Thank you. I feel energized. You, as well. It’s a safe space. I saw one maga - Loomer? - got banned today.

mgobluesky.bsky.social•223 days ago

She's a pos

kimz58.bsky.social•223 days ago

As an Ohioan I’m heartbroken Sherrod Brown lost. The attacks on him were all lies! Moreno doesn’t know the first thing about politics..!

michaelander45.bsky.social•223 days ago

Maybe? But I think the money question is a distraction. At least as it comes to tv advertising. The determinative forces that shaped this election where those from the earned media realm in which voters are constantly swimming.

jennjvn.bsky.social•223 days ago

Just to say, crypto is going to be a major, major problem. If the old school school billionaires don't win or if Musk isn't taken down somehow, Thiel & the crypto bros want to destroy the Fed & replace it with the 'Crypto Reserve'. They want to destabilize USD globally & insert crypto. It's bad.

swickl3.bsky.social•223 days ago

I did calls for Sherrod Brown, and honestly Bernie was really unpopular. I am guessing this all turned in the last few weeks with the big push of homophobic/trans ads.

fiore-blu.bsky.social•223 days ago

It’s because democrats don’t fight back! They need to stop being afraid of the media and Republicans and start playing by the new rules. Always be on offense and assume people know nothing!

maraleia.bsky.social•223 days ago

Sherrod Brown put out an ad with anti-trans language in it. That lost him votes from the base.

flukestarbucker.bsky.social•223 days ago

I’m trying to figure out how Union members and the billionaire class are now friends.

cpbloom.bsky.social•220 days ago

Crypto Loving Billionaire Boys (CLBB) got what they wanted. We're clueless about how bad this could get.

cpbloom.bsky.social•220 days ago

Yes, yes, yes.

irwinglenn.bsky.social•223 days ago

📌

nicholasabrown.bsky.social•223 days ago

Hey Molly! Nice to see you on @bsky.app!! Feels so refreshing on this platform!!

gobuxgal.bsky.social•223 days ago

And our spineless Gov DeWine, who made statements against the dangerous lies about Springfield will find another repugnant Republican like hillbilly hedge fund or blockchain BM to fill the vacancy in Senate.

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