I had very few concerns using TikTok while it was owned by ByteDance I have a lot of concerns if it's owned in total or part by a US company - ThreadSky

justingarrison.com • 112 days ago

I had very few concerns using TikTok while it was owned by ByteDance

I have a lot of concerns if it's owned in total or part by a US company

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varghur.bsky.social•112 days ago

It’s always been a partially owned company. Private corporations in the U.S., France and Japan as well as China.

nonesuch.website•112 days ago

Remember when there was a brief moment when it looked like that US company would be Oracle? 😱

j9bevdemo.bsky.social•111 days ago

Exactly, especially with this new administrations friends owning all the social media. Will it be used as a way to identify and track the non cult members.

joelle67.bsky.social•112 days ago

Feeling a little uneasy myself.

patrick-ohlson.ms-dot.net•112 days ago

Justin, It will surely be just fine👀🥳

lordthosbeaman.bsky.social•111 days ago

TikTok used their algorithms to support trump prior to the election. They showed pro-trump vids much more often. It should concern you that they worked to influence the election, no matter who they supported.

kcspioni.bsky.social•112 days ago

Exactly!!! Like a lot! Never going back on

mendozamcm.bsky.social•111 days ago

The U.S. is a very dangerous place.

studio313.bsky.social•111 days ago

Not really. Like any city you just need to be aware of your surroundings. Portugal, Spain your most likely to be a target than in NYC

philpoupart.bsky.social•111 days ago

Portugal.. no. That’s bullshit. I feel far safer in any city in Portugal, than I feel in NYC.

studio313.bsky.social•111 days ago

Try walking around with a Leica camera and tell me that’s bullshit. Lol

timclicks.dev•111 days ago

If that's the standard to meet, then more people should come to New Zealand

studio313.bsky.social•110 days ago

Walking around with a Leica in Australia is fine, no-one recognizes the brand. Thieves in Portugal know the difference between a $20,000 camera and a $200 camera.

speakingtruth24.bsky.social•111 days ago

Maybe you should move to China. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

wyldewitch.bsky.social•112 days ago

I wouldn’t have had concerns with it being owned by a US company necessarily… if it hadn’t been for those videos by Shou and those two pop up notifications. Now it’s in the rubbish with meta apps. I’ll use it in limited amounts, the nose is held while doing so, and everything is sus af.

stinkfloyd.bsky.social•112 days ago

We got Elon’s twitter, maga meta, and trumptok. We’re cooked

mrrottenmerican.bsky.social•112 days ago

I hope Disney buys it, I hope one reason byte dance owns marvel snap, and Disney owns marvel, I think Disney wouldn’t be happy with an app making them money getting banned because it’s bytedance.

justingarrison.com•112 days ago

Working at Disney was the first time I learned how much data was being collected from apps

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/legal/disney-sued-for-tracking-children-without-permission-via-mobile-games/

kkuphal.bsky.social•112 days ago

How about the US government? https://bsky.app/profile/shadowbat.net/post/3lg57qixic52d

srme.bsky.social•111 days ago

It's not a security breach as long at Trump gets to control the narrative on the platform. The 50% ownership is so he can convert TikTok to another X, a platform of hate and lies.

zen1924.bsky.social•111 days ago

That's why I deleted it. Walk away.

aimeelee.bsky.social•112 days ago

Same!

pazery.bsky.social•111 days ago

Especially if owned by a wannabe oligarch loyal to a fascist instead of country. Or an oligarch that pulls the strings of the ignorant fascist.

jennnasis.bsky.social•111 days ago

Yes, especially when they are constantly buying up all the other social media platforms - they want to avoid "misinformation" while controlling the narrative so that it benefits THEM.

willbme.bsky.social•112 days ago

So the Chinese owned app accused of being a propaganda arm of China made you have less trust in your home country and more trust in theirs.

sagewisdomwhispers.bsky.social•111 days ago

TT is not owned by China.

willbme.bsky.social•111 days ago

Sorry- accussed Chinese owned app founded by a Chinese billionaire who currently holds 20% while various investment firms own the rest.

thedadgilmore.bsky.social•111 days ago

I un-installed as soon as it went offline, and won't be going back. The bait and switch was entirely too blatant - I can get my doom scrolling in other ways, lol.

momof2vizslas.bsky.social•112 days ago

Same. I deleted.

joannamaddock.bsky.social•112 days ago

Are we not concerned TT is data mining and storing keystrokes? Will I wake up one day to find I’ve sent all my money overseas?

kathybowds.bsky.social•112 days ago

You don't realize that all apps and almost all websites are data mining??

swiftlytaytay.bsky.social•112 days ago

I smell something fishy. When trump is involved

alias2577.bsky.social•111 days ago

Same.

msshawnamarie.bsky.social•112 days ago

As you should…..

sandysue88.bsky.social•111 days ago

When I heard that trumpy-poo poo, thought the USA should own 50%. Knew I would never to use TikTok, never did, never will, won't start now.

luckiiyu7.bsky.social•112 days ago

Go look at Shou’s profile, it no longer says CEO.

blue-eyed-native.bsky.social•111 days ago

That's why I went ahead and deleted it and started to move on to others

focusreact.bsky.social•111 days ago

It sounds to me like you probably don't understand the fundamental underlying geopolitical / national security risks associated with CCP control over such a platform as TikTok in the US.

lexi-pro.bsky.social•111 days ago

Propaganda versus propaganda. We get it.

focusreact.bsky.social•111 days ago

Propaganda is only part of the equation. Allowing a foreign adversary access to the extremely intimate, detailed profiles of so many people in the US, any of those who are high value targets and who have embarrassing/taboo interests (which TikTok will know) will be susceptible to blackmail.

juliegriner.bsky.social•111 days ago

I went on TT and followed all my favorite creators on YouTube and then deleted my account. It did the same thing META does where it won’t delete permanently for 30 days smh

dwarre003.bsky.social•112 days ago

Sad but true.

here4thecomments.bsky.social•112 days ago

Ps every time you see a media outlet or someone post #Trump content on #TikTok especially for # inauguration hit the share arrow and select “not interested” then if they prompt a reason select “too sexual” or “irrelevant” - yes - brands pay for this consumer data 🤣

srme.bsky.social•111 days ago

I'm going to try this. Was not aware of this, TFS

studiomala.bsky.social•112 days ago

Yeah I actually agree with this take

dandeedee.bsky.social•112 days ago

The irony is everything they warned us about with TikTok, the US does in spades. Spying? Influence? Election interference? Addiction? Apple, Google, FB, Twitter, and numerous companies have been sued and still run doing it.

dandeedee.bsky.social•112 days ago

What's funnier is that the RedNote mogration actually made the TikTok thing a self fulfilling prophecy as citizens on the Chinese side thought a lot that their gov said about the US was propganda but found out it was true and US citizens found Red Note users are 3rd world like propaganda here says

dandeedee.bsky.social•112 days ago

In other words, because the US banned TikTok under various guises of Chinese sewing discorsd and chaos saying they were trying to uproot the US, US users only strength Chinese citizen support of their own gov while the US users lost more faith in their own

paigeci.bsky.social•111 days ago

No shit. The difference is, those companies aren’t owned by a rival militaristic, oppressive government that wants to hurt Americans.

addictivegadget.bsky.social•111 days ago

I cannot fathom this perspective.

ohheyky.bsky.social•112 days ago

when has anything American ever been even slightly untrustworthy

jbeer.bsky.social•111 days ago

I will not be using it now. Hard pass

asankov.dev•111 days ago

Really? You don't have concerns the chinese government can push propaganda to America's young people?

joechek.bsky.social•112 days ago

Agree

christineinne.bsky.social•111 days ago

With a fascist and oligarchs in charge, no fucking way. Personally I'm not sure. I see a big difference between our government having my data and China's government having my data. Both are totally capable of manipulating me in ways. I don't even know or understand. Same for Fuckerberg.

jenniferdrmk.bsky.social•112 days ago

Same! Feels icky there now.

thatsjeff.bsky.social•111 days ago

nobody asked you?

notthomaspynchon.bsky.social•111 days ago

“Speaking about Musk, Trump said:

He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers. Those vote-counting computers. And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide.” https://bsky.app/profile/thecanaryuk.bsky.social/post/3lg6qdktln223

instarx.bsky.social•112 days ago

I've been getting a sinking feeling that this whole "national security" tiktok thing has been a planned switcheroo to get tiktok into the hands of our new oligarchs.

ellzumem.bsky.social•111 days ago

Why not have concerns in both cases…

tande432.bsky.social•112 days ago

silverhairdontcare.bsky.social•111 days ago

Company? The US government? Or an oligarch? Over here just wondering about the details.

wolf-of-indigo.bsky.social•112 days ago

Never trust back channel deals made under duress.

mspyeinthesky.bsky.social•112 days ago

Don't worry, Trump will drive it into the ground just like our country.

mlbiam.dev•112 days ago

I've seen a few of these and think it's a really bad take. It's not better that bytedance is abusing our data then a us company. It's all shit.

justingarrison.com•112 days ago

China having my data can’t be used in American courts

Even with nothing to hide I’ve learned that data, motivation, and power can ruin lives

chaotic-japes.bsky.social•111 days ago

US courts absolutely can use TikTok data right now.

Federal & local authorities can and have subpoenaed TikTok for user data, just like they do with any US-owned companies, & TikTok has been more than happy to provide.

The concern is in addition to the US, the Chinese gov also has user data access

mlbiam.dev•112 days ago

No? Corruption breeds more corruption. Now that ByteDance is cozy with the new administration that pipeline from the CCP to the US is there now. This isn't China good, US bad. Plenty of room for multiple villains here.

justingarrison.com•112 days ago

I’m not saying China isn’t bad. I’m saying the old ownership model didn’t have a direct way to apply that data to US laws

bettyjunod.bsky.social•112 days ago

It might just be a ESH when comparing govs and corporations

dopey5742.bsky.social•112 days ago

I keep reminding people that I don’t live in China. Their effect on my daily life and what they can do with my data is far less damaging than the US government and the billionaires that have bought it.

do-no-evil.bsky.social•112 days ago

Just look what happened with Facebook and cambridge analytica in 2020. I don't trust any Meta product.

f0110031303150110.bsky.social•112 days ago

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m3chav1king.bsky.social•111 days ago

How we view American business as the enemy now is funny when our parents and grandparents were all about pro America business

songofeternity.bsky.social•111 days ago

When people are "pro-American business," we're talking about choosing locally owned stores and locally made products instead of Walmart or Amazon. Billionaires having a monopoly on propaganda isn't something anyone wants.

m3chav1king.bsky.social•111 days ago

Local stores with small business owners are perfect examples. They go hand in hand, but when a locally owned store grows into a major business or if a local store becomes an online Goliath, do we still support that business? Is it the size of the business we evaluate or is it the morals?

songofeternity.bsky.social•111 days ago

That's a fair question, but I think that USUALLY the morals decline as the profits increase. I truly, honestly believe you cannot become a billionaire using moral business practices, and you certainly can't morally continue to horde that wealth.

glolovesbooks.bsky.social•112 days ago

Same. It already doesn’t feel the same for some reason.

cameronf305.bsky.social•111 days ago

Are you retarded?

dthdoogie.bsky.social•111 days ago

It'll probably be bought by Musk and trump will squeeze Musk for $$$$,the crook/grifter that he is.

dustinbonivert.bsky.social•111 days ago

I remember leaving tiktok while they were suppressing posts about the Hong Kong protestors. New boss same as the old boss

faern-me.bsky.social•112 days ago

You know it

keith-mcdowell-62.bsky.social•111 days ago

So true, and sad!

theveganbutcher.bsky.social•111 days ago

Shit take.

drkalifao.bsky.social•111 days ago

Same

3minwithgigi.bsky.social•111 days ago

Exactly - I feel so violated!

doctorwhen.bsky.social•112 days ago

This is what it looks like when dictators pretend to give a shit in order to trick you into supporting them. Create a problem, solve the problem, wait for everybody to kiss your ass.

lbach2.bsky.social•111 days ago

Yep

zymurgeist.bsky.social•112 days ago

You do realize all of your data was being ported directly to a CCP database right? Also that all criticism of the CCP was being censored. Then there's the anti-American propaganda. This is the rare case where it's better that we do it than a malign foreign power. Be concerned over who has your data.

chieffatguy.bsky.social•112 days ago

So Musk using your data to spread his anti American propaganda is better how? Other than he now will get richer

zymurgeist.bsky.social•112 days ago

Musk isn't going to get TikTok. I've also never seen any anti American anything from him. He gets some things wrong but it's not malice. Musk getting richer is a given no matter what he does. Such is the power of having far more money than you could ever spend.

chieffatguy.bsky.social•111 days ago

They litterly support Putin. Russia actively interferes in the US elections as well as the election process of other democratic countries.

tecnooptimist.bsky.social•112 days ago

Exactly these people are gonna be acting all shocked and surprised in four years when China attacks Taiwan and we go to war

zymurgeist.bsky.social•112 days ago

I don't think China has the capability to invade Taiwan. They're in worse shape than they will ever admit. If it were a game of Risk! they should own Siberia by now. Time will tell.

tecnooptimist.bsky.social•111 days ago

I’m not sure if they’re in worse shape but they’re definitely facing a Demographic crisis

I follow defense news pretty closely, and the US military is completely reactivating its presence across the pacific

We are activating air fields that have been mothballed since WW II for a reason

abilupton.bsky.social•112 days ago

Someone posted a TT just before the ban. In it they said "Either way TikTok as we know it today will be gone". Accurate if you ask me.

I haven't deleted it yet, but I doubt it'll be long before I do. Even if it stays relatively popular like "X" the purposes of the app for many has already changed.

justingarrison.com•112 days ago

People tell me to go to shorts or reels and they don’t realize I was on TT for the community just as much as the content

The others have no community because they just copied features

fr0z3nrebel.bsky.social•112 days ago

I agree 100%. Our own government is so hypocritical. Our own government just wants to control everybody and everything, and I guess they won't stop until they do.

martydevarennes.bsky.social•112 days ago

If they operate like Meta, they’ll take all the data from every click we make on our phones. Deleted all their apps today. I’m done. And since I’m not a content creator, I deleted TT too!

althezar.bsky.social•112 days ago

everybody seem to after your data and information, nation control by corperation

dusthawk.bsky.social•112 days ago

Why can't it be both?

studio313.bsky.social•111 days ago

Yep, we know from experience that the Democrats will use TikTok for their own political agenda; looking at you Meta, Twitter!

pazery.bsky.social•111 days ago

It’s not about democrats or republicans, it about people loyal to our constitution and democracy versus the weak cult minded loyal to a demagogue sociopath.
Never sieg heil trump!

studio313.bsky.social•111 days ago

You mixed up a few things there. Yes, Trump is of German heritage but his doesn’t push a German fascist agenda. That’s a far left projection - on issues they don’t agree with; abortion, vaccination, media manipulation, gender dysphoria etc

pazery.bsky.social•100 days ago

You definitely got everything mixed up. Pro fascist MAGAts and their cult ruler are the masters of projection, not the left, right or center. Non MAGAt patriotic Americans that voted against trump, believe in our constitution, the rule of law, free & fair elections, law enforcement. to name a few.

studio313.bsky.social•97 days ago

No, the amount of BS and disinformation is off the charts right now.

pazery.bsky.social•96 days ago

Yes indeed, sociopath trump is an incessant lying demagogue that as I write this, is lying along side fellow criminal Netanyahu…off the charts indeed.

pazery.bsky.social•111 days ago

As the true centrist that is am, no mix up or projection here. A self serving fascist is a fascist no matter from where.

triplebexxx.bsky.social•111 days ago

have you checked the news lately?? Zuckerberg is openly groveling before Trump, but it's never enough. You expect to rule and have your grievance, too

speckonblue.bsky.social•111 days ago

I am not sure trolls are in the habit of checking news.
Check the account, block, and move on

kevholl.bsky.social•111 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/kevholl.bsky.social/post/3lg6q74ykmc23

drgrat.bsky.social•112 days ago

Jeff Yass, a libertarian billionaire and Trump mega donor, owns 15% of Bytedance the parent company of TikTok.

Know your oligarchs!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Yass

lyds85.bsky.social•112 days ago

Literally everyone stay tf off tik tok

f0110031303150110.bsky.social•112 days ago

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thehappypetchannel.bsky.social•111 days ago

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kathybowds.bsky.social•112 days ago

I worked in tech during the "dotcom revolution" I've always been mindful of the data collected by *all* websites, email providers, apps... I wasn't on TikTok (it didn't agree with my adhd) but I felt the attention to tiktok initially was more about Trump’s trade war with China than data concerns 🤷‍♀️

justingarrison.com•112 days ago

What did you work on during docom?

kathybowds.bsky.social•112 days ago

A website that interfaced with govt websites so people could pay parking tickets, etc... but I also had an assignment with a start-up circa 1999 that provided "personalization" for e-commerce sites... which was eye-opening...

justingarrison.com•112 days ago

Any chance you’d want to come on @fafo.fm to talk about what that was like?

We had “retro” episodes with our last podcast and they were some of my favorite

@lnxchk.bsky.social talked about AOL chat rooms and @richburroughs.dev talked about webMD

kathybowds.bsky.social•110 days ago

I'm not sure I'd be qualified? I'll listen and see if I can add to the conversation 😀