Just FYI I AM the Jeweled Lotus defender but a lot of you dipshits made it impossible to defend because from a game perspective I will fight for its freedom, from a social perspective this thing stays forbidden longer because yall thought it was chill to say some awful shit to people - ThreadSky

rebell.bsky.social • 39 days ago

Just FYI I AM the Jeweled Lotus defender but a lot of you dipshits made it impossible to defend because from a game perspective I will fight for its freedom, from a social perspective this thing stays forbidden longer because yall thought it was chill to say some awful shit to people

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miavalley.bsky.social•39 days ago

bingbong-sempai.bsky.social•39 days ago

What's the argument from a game perspective?

andrewopk.bsky.social•39 days ago

jlo/crypt/etc are fine-to-beneficial for high-power pods and can be kept to a manageable level in lower power by sticking them on the game changer list

bingbong-sempai.bsky.social•39 days ago

What makes them "beneficial" gameplay wise? Games with fast mana are usually one player snowballing into a win

belsthar.bsky.social•39 days ago

It's 2250; ancient concepts like race and gender exist as footnotes in the causes of the revolution, as forgotten and alien as the abacus. Jeweled lotus is finally unbanned.

tmidander.bsky.social•39 days ago

As far as I'm concerned those cards are nuclear waste, because of the reaction

zestychinchilla.bsky.social•39 days ago

A very valid stance. I actually have a similar sentiment towards AI Lol 🤷

sp3ctr380.bsky.social•39 days ago

It's dumb from a game pov too so I'm happy with it living in the shadow realm

desiheart.bsky.social•39 days ago

This is exactly the stance I’ve taken on this card. I would love to see it back again (preferably printed in precons so as to actually make it accessible) but not after all the damage that’s been done. There has to be a line somewhere (socially and morally speaking).

goblinkings.bsky.social•39 days ago

You're so right for this. Forever fuck those people who threatened folks over a card game.

dogmaazul.bsky.social•39 days ago

I think it goes deeper than harassment, I think JL and Mana Crypt should stay banned and somehow be even more banned to lose even more value, because this was all about idiots thinking toys and cardboard were stocks.

Behavior exclusive of people without souls.

degenerateresident.bsky.social•39 days ago

That's exactly my thought. I've mostly seen mana crypt kill it's owner and never felt like it was overpowering. Jeweled lotus is a one time use in the 99 of most decks, so it's not that bad most of the time. But they need to stay banned because if they come off it says death threats work.

stelliocantos.bsky.social•39 days ago

Hard agree.

azureless.bsky.social•39 days ago

This will forever remain a weird one for me, as the reaction was definitely not ok, but my friends who aren't perpetually online dont understand why these cards are now controversial at all and just want it unbanned. I get not wanted to cave to abusers, but I think most players lack that context.

azureless.bsky.social•39 days ago

I dont know that Id do anything differently in your shoes, but it is just such a bizarre situation in the first place.

rebell.bsky.social•39 days ago

Yeh it’s just weird. My game design brain says it’s net positive but the social part makes me understand it can’t be unbanned lol

azureless.bsky.social•39 days ago

I dont know if you can really answer this or not, but how much of a say do yall really have? This feels like the kind of card Wizards would want to bring back as a chase card again, regardless of anything else, and from an outside perspective, Wizards seems very bottom line driven.

rebell.bsky.social•39 days ago

A lot of say. I confidently believe that my input is valued and reflected in whatever is ultimately decided upon. I don’t think I’m just some extra voice to validate their group. I genuinely believe Wotc acts for the benefit of players.

azureless.bsky.social•39 days ago

It's very encouraging to hear you say that.

kyffles.bsky.social•39 days ago

i'm pretty glad it's not in the format tbh. it never felt fun

metalupis.bsky.social•39 days ago

Yup

the-misanthrope.bsky.social•39 days ago

I'm honestly just glad I don't have to think about both this conflicting feelings I share for a full year according to what Gavin said on the release today.

donifmtgc.bsky.social•39 days ago

Same

diceanddinosaurs.bsky.social•39 days ago

engelthefallen.bsky.social•39 days ago

Evil Rebell arc let's go!!! Ban all the cards until only raccoons are legal (to not upset YaBoi).

engelthefallen.bsky.social•39 days ago

In all seriously though good job with the commander stuff, I like what you all did a lot.

dantestormpaw.bsky.social•39 days ago

Yeah I have no strong feelings about the cards mechanically, but after the way people acted I'll always advocate for them staying banned because we cannot ever reward that behaviour

secret-crunch.bsky.social•39 days ago

I like jeweled lotus being banned, I think as long as it, mana crypt, and dockside are banned then golos isn’t as big of a deal and it should be unbanned.

Sorry people were being awful shits y’all don’t deserve that. I hope they grow up.

geekbeardly.bsky.social•39 days ago

Yup, exactly

alex.spikefeeders.com•39 days ago

Frankly, for the hassle, I'd be happy to never see any of these back. That said, thank you for being the typically wise person you are.

marsbarszs.bsky.social•39 days ago

It could have been basic plains in question and I would never want that card unbanned with how the community reacted

silasthelunark.bsky.social•39 days ago

Yeah death threats means no one gets to play with it in any official capacity.

thought-knot.bsky.social•39 days ago

At this point I feel unbanning them would send the message that it’s ok to harass people to get what you want, so I’d be fine if they never got unbanned

wildernewyear.bsky.social•39 days ago

I live for a world where Black Lotus gets unbanned before Jeweled Lotus.

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