my favorite Jason Stanleyism is "stacking the Supreme Court so it doesn't make Trump a king would be worse than letting him go unpunished" - ThreadSky

theophite.bsky.social • 44 days ago

my favorite Jason Stanleyism is "stacking the Supreme Court so it doesn't make Trump a king would be worse than letting him go unpunished"

Reposted from Daniel Gilmore

"Societies contain many elements--but I draw the line at any of those elements being a potential risk to me personally. A risk to you though? Thats fine. Toughen up."

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theophite.bsky.social•44 days ago

there are no liberal means by which one can defeat illiberalism. once your opposition commits to fraud and violence you are more or less obligated to use the power of the state to destroy them

neosolonist.bsky.social•44 days ago

That would be justifiable by liberal principles though, considering that's the main function of the state according to liberal philosophy. It's just not non-coercive, but if the other side violates the harm principle, state coercion is justified.

magos-dominus.bsky.social•44 days ago

A lot of people get stuck with debate team brain, trying to iron out a consistent liberal philosophy they can't be called a hypocrite for following.

It's not a philosophy, though. It's a compact. Follow the rules, receive its protections. Break the rules? Face the wall.

Too many afraid of power.

wades.bsky.social•44 days ago

> ... no liberal means...

Is violence necessarily "illiberal?"

Does a liberal society become an illiberal one if it must resort to violence in self-defense?

I'm picking nits about the intermediate steps, not questioning the conclusion.

davidjorgonson.bsky.social•44 days ago

In this case it was necessary to put a thumb on the scales of justice, or act extrajudicially.
Since there was so much pressure in the other direction on the judiciary.
"The FedSoc judiciary is sacred" is a big part of the problem

icefire9atla.bsky.social•44 days ago

The moment to do that, sadly, was after January 6th. But we didn't and now the fascists have the power of the state.

scooterbones.bsky.social•44 days ago

I'd have to agree. The time has passed when liberalism had anything to offer anyone materially. All it can do now is reproduce itself. Force is the only recourse left.

cameroncorduroy.bsky.social•44 days ago

you can't enforce gun control laws with tasers

cthomasjamh.bsky.social•44 days ago

God I remember all this self-righteousness, over and over.

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