Nigel Farage says he would tear up the Starmer reset deal for a UK-EU closer relationship after Brexit - NB, and the Sunak and the Johnson deals with the EU - and claims he could negotiate a better, harder Brexit with looser UK/EU ties www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/202... - ThreadSky

sundersays.bsky.social • 16 days ago

Nigel Farage says he would tear up the Starmer reset deal for a UK-EU closer relationship after Brexit - NB, and the Sunak and the Johnson deals with the EU - and claims he could negotiate a better, harder Brexit with looser UK/EU ties
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/16/farage-make-me-pm-and-ill-scrap-starmer-brexit-deal/

Comments

ceu---azul.bsky.social•15 days ago

Starting every news piece with "Trump says" and put in a bit picture of Trump was how they completely defeated him!
Surely it will work out the same for Farage.

kevconroy.bsky.social•16 days ago

Bombs back on the streets of the UK.

Anyway, he’d have to be PM and in power.

catfoodontoast.bsky.social•16 days ago

On the plus side, him and Reform looking strong at the next election may just galvanised even the softest of pro Scottish independence minded to vote accordingly.

doctort1992.bsky.social•16 days ago

That's not negotiating

mamaloufood.bsky.social•16 days ago

Grifter

trishfln.bsky.social•15 days ago

😣 he is a fool.

copybot.bsky.social•16 days ago

All Reform can ever do is destroy. Their negativity will undo them.

josh10.bsky.social•16 days ago

The man is dangerous and determined to divide/destroy the UK.

robgomm.bsky.social•16 days ago

This is one where he'll be struggling as there's no prospect of rejoining but perfectly reasonable arguments for doing better deals. He's against the tide on Europe now.

robgomm.bsky.social•16 days ago

In counter to that, he will get most of the anti-European hardliners though whereas any benefit to Starmer will be shared across Lib Dems and Greens.

motosunburn.bsky.social•16 days ago

And yet, the rejoin ultras are threatening to desert Labour making it more likely that Farage could win. Have people learned nothing about the power of tactical voting?

marylou2.bsky.social•16 days ago

That alone shows he is unsuitable. Even if a better deal were available what ever that means, a skilled negotiator wouldn’t start by destroying their existing position. What’s his track record of building trust with opponents & then bringing a complex deal to a successful close?
All hot rancid air.

annharries.bsky.social•16 days ago

A few more comments like that, and his popularity will be a rapid downhill slide.

sundersays.bsky.social•16 days ago

Relatively few people want a more distant relationship with the EU. 52% closer and 12% more distant in our pre-election research on the future relationship. This is a recurring finding in all research into what the public want now
https://www.britishfuture.org/publication/beyond-brexit-public-perspectives-on-the-future-uk-eu-relationship/

sundersays.bsky.social•16 days ago

Support for more cooperation and collaboration rises above 52% in specific areas of shared interests. Crime and terrorism (68%), trade (61%), science (61%), defence (57%), mobility (57%). These are pre-Trump return findings, and there is some evidence of a boost for closer cooperation from that

sundersays.bsky.social•16 days ago

Our research found pragmatic permission for closer cooperation in shared interests - but not for reopening the Brexit divides.

Most voters across that political divide would like a less heated debate about future relations.

Farage calling it a "surrender summit" has risks outside his core vote.

sundersays.bsky.social•16 days ago

There is pragmatic support for the government to pursue British interests in all of the international relationships - but a clear prioritisation for the UK-EU relationship as mattering more than the UK-US relationship, or the Commonwealth relationships. This was before the return of Trump in the US

sundersays.bsky.social•16 days ago

The ECFR had "closer" at 55% and "more distant" at 10% after Trump's election - with a broad plurality across Europe for a closer post-Brexit relationship

https://ecfr.eu/publication/the-politics-of-the-reset-trump-putin-and-shifting-eu-uk-public-opinion/

sundersays.bsky.social•16 days ago

We can get better outcomes on X by closer cooperation than without it has broad appeal on most topics of public importance, inc economy and security. We can better outcomes by doing our own thing + by not getting sucked into a closer UK-EU relationship struggles on most things: AI is most balanced

hivernage.bsky.social•16 days ago

In the end of the day, it all depends on Starmer's effectiveness as leader. If he can't provide meaningful change and prosperity, Labour will stay unpopular. His current mix of the worst of Blair with some Reform flavours, doesn't work. Closer EU ties might at least increase economic growth

sarahcalvert.bsky.social•16 days ago

It would be interesting to see what those voters who put it as second, put first. Do you have that chart?

troybairn.bsky.social•16 days ago

We see this in the polls. It is not the other pro-Brexit parties taking Labour votes, it is the pro-EU parties (LD+Grn+SNP+PC).

Voting intention of GE2024 Labour voters (Find Out Now 14/5):

Lab 56%
LD* 17%
Grn* 12%
Ref• 9%
Con• 3%
SNP* 1%
PC* 1%

Loss to pro-EU* = 31 pp
Loss to far right• = 12 pp

joseph-yossarian.bsky.social•16 days ago

Only the views of one man - Nigel Farage - count.

He is the only one the government listens to.

eddwilson.bsky.social•16 days ago

I suspect that the EU would give him exactly that. If successive UK governments don't want a useful relationship, then why bother with them?

If it wasn't for Russia. And the US.

We continue to suffer from British stupidity.

hodmanjohn.bsky.social•16 days ago

Along with our NHS, the safety of our food, the freedom of our youngsters to study, live and work anywhere they chose and the value of our salaries and pensions. All while the treacherous moron continues to dig his tongue deep into Trump's and Putin's arseholes.

tsunami65.bsky.social•16 days ago

He's living in cloud cuckoo land. Totally off his rocket, nasty little fascist.

s-rob-gordon.bsky.social•16 days ago

Farage is saying this because the grift is good for his bank balance. He knows this makes him unelectable but that is also what he wants. The last thing he wants is responsibility.

pwc50.bsky.social•16 days ago

Whoever is saying they'd rip up anything related to closer cooperation, the problem they cause is reminding the EU how relatively easy it would be for UK to unravel any such international treaties

With its huge majority what Labour ought to do now is make a brexit-type action legally far harder

malreed.bsky.social•16 days ago

Farage is determined to fuck Britain completely for his masters and the greedy sociopathic billionaire media owners that ruin Britain will help him do it. All fascistic pro-Putin pro-Trump chums together.
They truly are the enemies of the people.

inshado.bsky.social•16 days ago

Farage is so full of shit. He's a cancer to the UK and needs shutting down, or the UK will end up with a UK Maga cult of reactionary bigoted idiots and thick as mince political zombies following it and that chinless gormless grifting corrupt Putin apologist.

peterb333.bsky.social•15 days ago

Perfectly put.

brexitrage.bsky.social•16 days ago

The only good Brexit is a dead Brexit.

https://brexitrage.com/the-only-good-brexit/

smfbooth.bsky.social•16 days ago

With his stated policy of returning asylum seekers to France even though France has said “No”, he would not only “tear up” any reset between UK-EU, he would cause deep division and likely retaliation. He wants his EU pension though..!

caraeilis.bsky.social•16 days ago

wish he would take it and retire

pauliom.bsky.social•16 days ago

Like he sorted out the fishing issues when he represented the UK as an MEP on the fishing committee. Grifting Shister.

joelbudd.bsky.social•16 days ago

Politically, this is a great reason to do an ambitious deal with the EU. Voting for Reform UK needs to mean something—it needs to have clear costs. Build those pylons in Lincolnshire, too.

barryo2003.bsky.social•13 days ago

Sound familiar? Straight out of the orange fart’s playbook of shit strategy. What an arse.

petermsharp.bsky.social•14 days ago

Which is why we must reject Farage and Reform - he is a charlatan who cares nothing for ordinary folk

charliealger.bsky.social•16 days ago

Everyone in the world, Farage included know he would make a fucking disastrous PM. He, like Johnson are only good for campaigning. They cannot grasp the most basic of facts, they are fucking idiots. The sooner the media ignore him and his isolationist policies the better.

andysaccount.bsky.social•16 days ago

What’s best is that Farage does not even know what is in that deal yet. Bellend.

jago2012.bsky.social•16 days ago

There must be an island somewhere, where we can 'encourage' all R*form sympathisers to set up home, build a huge wall around and live forever with 'proper English' white people, eating white people food, getting all your jobs done by white people, listening to English spoke proper.....
Please
(joke)

kevyb.bsky.social•16 days ago

No doubt Nige has all the cards and has an oven ready deal in waiting...*large dollops of sarcasm*

garethaethwy.bsky.social•16 days ago

I don’t get it, what specifically does he not like about the TCA? Is it that he wants to tear up the NI protocol and introduce a hard border on Ireland? What else can’t he like?

tykebrahe.bsky.social•16 days ago

He’s bright he could do that easily, but it would create more, not less trade friction , and entrench and widen the current Irish Sea trade border with NI

And of course, France would say FU over taking back boat crossers

mabbes1408.bsky.social•16 days ago

Nigel would really like us to be North Korea…

johnnybaldry.bsky.social•16 days ago

This is the trouble with any rejoin discussion. Tory/Reform headbangers would just undo whatever progress was made. It'll take generational change before the desire to move closer to rejoining is so baked in that it would be seen as electoral suicide to try and wreck it.