This underscores why banning the Tush Push seems silly. If you’re going to write extremely precise rules to outlaw one successful play, football people will immediately scheme up ways to do the same thing but legally - ThreadSky

rodger.bsky.social • 12 days ago

This underscores why banning the Tush Push seems silly. If you’re going to write extremely precise rules to outlaw one successful play, football people will immediately scheme up ways to do the same thing but legally

Reposted from Nate Tice

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grairdan.bsky.social•12 days ago

Wouldn't it be easier to just learn how to do the tush push yourself? Show some ambition, for Christ's sake!

rakmichael.bsky.social•12 days ago

Just about the only way it makes sense to ban the play is if it was somehow more dangerous. The fact other teams have been less successful than the Eagles points to the skill of the players and not the play itself. It’d be like banning the 6’5” QBs from doing a sneak because they have better reach

jkhile.bsky.social•12 days ago

Seems like this is why - after the rules meetings - we heard that it was more likely that they would ban pushing entirely.

drakemayeenjoyer.bsky.social•12 days ago

Can foresee one of these coaches doing the slight alteration push, getting flagged incorrectly and going ballistic on the ref and it being a point discussed all week.

They should either ban all pushing like it used to be or just leave it as it is now. The eagles are just better at it and that’s ok

darosenthal.bsky.social•12 days ago

how about "no pushing your own guys"

pretty basic.

bgt.bsky.social•12 days ago

“You cannot push your own player when they are engaged with a defensive player” seems to cover it without ambiguity.

darosenthal.bsky.social•12 days ago

I would lose that last bit. Just... don't push your teammates. It's simple and I think the game would be cleaner.

drakemayeenjoyer.bsky.social•12 days ago

Used to be the rule btw

thegoche.bsky.social•12 days ago

Tush Push is dead. Long live the Ass Pass (immediately after the snap two beefy backs toss a skinny QB into the endzone).

signaltonoise.bsky.social•12 days ago

Rules are just vulnerabilities waiting for exploit.

spsnomad.bsky.social•12 days ago

None of the teams I love are especially good at this, but they're definitely fixing something that isn't broken here. Anything that results in fewer punts on fourth and short that immediately go through the end zone without a return is a good thing for the game.

kstairguitar.bsky.social•12 days ago

The teammates pushing from behind isn't even why it works

bgt.bsky.social•12 days ago

“You cannot push your own player when they are engaged with a defensive player” seems to cover it without ambiguity.

dfagella.bsky.social•12 days ago

This is so dumb. What's so hard about "the ball carrier must not be intentionally pushed forward by his own teammate"?

robot-bastard.bsky.social•12 days ago

please provide exact definitions, specific to the rule, of "ball carrier", "intentionally", "pushed", "forward", "teammate", and "the".

vumander.bsky.social•12 days ago

50% of the time there's little to no help the backfield guys next to Hurts are providing. Watch the replays. If the O-Line gets low enough, they're mostly just spotters in case he gets pushed back.

vumander.bsky.social•12 days ago

If you banned the other backfield guys from touching hurts, they'd still run it and have a high success rate. They'd probably just have to limit the distance they could feasibly get. The backfield guys usually kept Hurts vertical to about 2+ yd down field. Prob would only be effective to 2-3 ft now

vumander.bsky.social•12 days ago

Here you can see Goedert and Barkley haven even really applied any force yet. In this scenario they will likely impact the play, chiefs met him high and he's facing resistance.

vumander.bsky.social•12 days ago

But in situations like this, where the line gets low enough, all Hurts is really doing is getting low so he can go over the back of Mailata. Backfield guys are really there more to protect him from getting rolled on than actually aiding in the conversion

dfagella.bsky.social•12 days ago

OK cool. So then 50% of them should be illegal and the other 50% are just QB sneaks. Glad we went through this.

madtownsouthpaw.bsky.social•12 days ago

Here's what the rule should be:

An offensive player can't push the player with the ball forward.

This isn't rugby

robot-bastard.bsky.social•12 days ago

Can I push a player who doesn't have the ball?

madtownsouthpaw.bsky.social•12 days ago

Yeah. Why not? What am I not considering?

robot-bastard.bsky.social•12 days ago

don't push the QB, push the center and the QB follows him

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