The Zelenskiy/Trump meeting went wrong when JD Vance got stuck in so aggressively. US Vice-Presidents have usually seen their job as trying to be emollient; Vance, by contrast, seemed actively to want to stir things up.
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The bully always has a sidekick who shouts encouragement from the sidelines and hold the coats. Trump trying to do to Zelenskiy what Hitler did to Czech president Benes in 1938. Shocking and appalling.
It seems to me Vance’s behaviour was to do with domestic politics and his desire to be heir to Trump. His outburst was also more like a son defending his father perhaps fulfilling some deep psychological need.
It was premeditated John. They know they can’t get Russia to stop and cede so they’re trying to paint Ukraine and Zelenskyy into being the problem. All Trump wants is to get back to business with Russia.
Vance is a nobody trying to make a name for himself. I’ve never seen a more inept politician in my life. His comments and approach was that of a child throwing a tantrum to get attention.
John, I must point you to the obscure word "Huff-snuff" (n, a) (Susie Dent's word of the day).
"A conceited fellow who gives himself airs and is quick to take offence; a braggart, hector."
The problem with Trump-Vance strategy is that they’re negotiating like it’s still the campaign, and they have to convince the American people of the deal.
They don’t need to convince us, they need to convince Europe, Ukraine and Russia, not MAGA.
I think he was trying to make up for yesterday when Starmer put him in his place about free speech
Vance has shown how stupid and nasty he is ,
Why would you let your foe (supposedly Putin) let them know your (Ukraine’s) weakness with recruitment of troops, absolutely disgusting
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Hopefully, European countries will be spurred into supporting Ukraine without the US now.
Vance may have been there with the job of ensuring the deal went south
Surely condemnation?
Nothing in this makes any sense.
Who’s the Real Boy King?
How to lose friends and alienate people, more like.
That was shameful. Talk about disrespect? They treated Zelenskyy abominably.
Absolutely shamed the offices they hold
"A conceited fellow who gives himself airs and is quick to take offence; a braggart, hector."
The huff-snuffs of the White House.
They don’t need to convince us, they need to convince Europe, Ukraine and Russia, not MAGA.
Vance has shown how stupid and nasty he is ,
Why would you let your foe (supposedly Putin) let them know your (Ukraine’s) weakness with recruitment of troops, absolutely disgusting