I don't think we should be letting our perceptions of what emerging technologies can do define what meaningful activities are, or what needs to be done by a human. I'm interested to see more context, but at first glance, this affirms an outcome-oriented view of writing, which I think is anti-human. - ThreadSky

elizabethwithaz.bsky.social • 48 days ago

I don't think we should be letting our perceptions of what emerging technologies can do define what meaningful activities are, or what needs to be done by a human. I'm interested to see more context, but at first glance, this affirms an outcome-oriented view of writing, which I think is anti-human.

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markgh.bsky.social•42 days ago

That’s pretty much the opposite of the argument of the book. Think it’s clear that @biblioracle.bsky.social values process over product regardless of what machines can do; machines can’t think or feel, and thus they cannot and do not write. Writing is valuable; machine-generated text isn’t.

elizabethwithaz.bsky.social•42 days ago

The specific line I was responding to was, "If ChatGPT can do something, then that thing probably doesn't need to be done by a human being."

biblioracle.bsky.social•42 days ago

I can see this interpretation, but there is indeed a larger context. I'm specifically talking about things like 5PE's which are completed as writing simulations for the purpose of assessments, but which, IMO don't help students learn to write. I see the tech as a lens which allows us to examine...

biblioracle.bsky.social•42 days ago

...what we've been doing and build those practices from a place of values that make writing meaningful, rather than performative for an assessment.

markgh.bsky.social•42 days ago

Sure. But the wider point being made in John’s book is that it can’t and doesn’t do what it is touted to be able to do. Key point is that it doesn’t write.

elizabethwithaz.bsky.social•42 days ago

That's why I said I was interested in more context. It was just the one sentence that hit me like that.

jedediyah.com•48 days ago

I always struggle with implied commonalities between students and employees. One significant difference between those two being that the product hardly ever matters for students. I already know the answers to the problems I'm posing.

Let's believe CEOs when they say they are optimizing financials.

markgh.bsky.social•42 days ago

Don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone imply commonalities between students and employees; where do you see this?

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