It’s alarming how many people were just sitting around recording the incident on their phones just letting that happen. This is the problem, NOBODY wants to do anything when they see something, merely recording it to make it a viral moment is NOT ENOUGH. We need to do better!
It seems more and more people are getting arrested because they have something to say. If they don't like it, then they should change what they're doing. Free speech is a real thing....
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"Never be a spectator of unfairness or stupidity. Seek out argument and disputation for their own sake; the grave will supply plenty of time for silence." - Hitchens
I would go a step further and say everyone should have stopped the removal. There were a lot more people than security at the event. Time to take it seriously and stand up for each others rights.
100% AGREE- YOU are RIGHT. Women-girls under attack by GOP. AND YES, that is what GOP ARE DOING. Women & girls are dying because of GOP PARTY greed -lust for the power to RULE OVER females. "---Republicans--- insist---not waging war on women. But --- proof---they are---" https://whyy.org/articles/the-gops-war-on-women-continued/
She wasn't harmed it seems. I say that bc as an organizer you can see the value of the video showing men using force to silence her doesn't that play better to a broad audience than a brawl would play? Is that not a consideration? Also, we need attorneys to have setup support for those who would..
interdict. Men have to worry about being arrested for assault. So use your platform to inform about legality and who to call if you do and get busted. We need a lot more details about how to handle. Do we keep them from removing her or just from abusing her? Legally. Optics wise. Etc.
Pains me seeing no one willing to stand up or doing anything when bs like this occurs. You can’t be a good person, a good man allowing women to be assaulted and abused. It’s that simple. Standing together works. This can happen to anybody now and would wise to invest in self defense classes
When we are at these protests, we are protesting as a whole, as the angry class against the billionaire bitch club. I expect ALL of us to stand in the way, to be loud, to protect each other. If you are letting the people around you down, THAT’S ON YOU- be better. We need you.
Thought the exact same thing. Pretty disgusting.
Put the damn phone down and DO SOMETHING. For gods sake you are losing your country America! This woman needed help regardless of what her opinion was and the best anyone could do was film it?! FFS
If I had been there then, or if I am in a future similar situation, I can guarantee you that my fat, white, cis, male ass will be between the POS nazi thug, and whoever it is they are trying to take.
I would probably have intervened because my wife would have told me to. She's more alert and aware about situations like that than me and it often takes me a long time to respond.
I agree where are the men when you truly need them! But then look how their fearless leader treats women...such an example! Gone are the days when a man..real man defended his woman..your woman..a woman. This makes you realize just how truly alone you are.
I weigh 400 pounds and put me in the way. They couldn't even lift me, let alone my fingers gonna be gouging your eye outta your head, and I will eat you.
I'm embarrassed and angry that no man tried to help. However, if they were all Republican MAGATs then one understands that controlling the women is something those sick bastards applaud.
The man in the green cap is the Sherriff of Kootenai County. He stated who he was. He clearly knew who the plainclothes security guards were. Clear violation of 4th Amendment rights. Failure to ID by the Sherriff and the security guards is against policy.
The announcer has been identified as Ed Bejarana. I wonder if the folks in North Idaho know he is a Californian. We should make sure they know. https://edbejararana.com
12 years of Aikido martial arts training gave me a lot of confidence. I'm female, 67 years old. Women can get in the way, too.
It looked like everyone was in shock and having the "freeze" response. So glad she is taking legal action.
Watching that video, the guy at the podium was taunting her, and people were clapping. It is like nobody gave a shit, other than a couple of women sitting near her speaking out.
Isn’t it always that way! Women do it all the time for no praise, and men show up and get praised for doing the same thing lol! Saw that when my kiddos were in school.
I’ve been saying the same thing. The men - all men - do not have our backs. Never did. It’s crickets out there whether it’s in the protests, or in general. They’re clearly afraid of these other men. Not the women, though. That whole video you referenced was all women’s voices.
Women need to get much more comfortable buying and learning how to use weapons for self defence. We are half the population and even the men on the left aren't for us. So the great equalizer has to be firepower.
Seriously, that city is known to be run by white supremacy groups. How do you not know that? Of course that happened.
I am a man who is 6' tall 250lbs and am known to step in, however FROM EXPERIENCE, do not fight them on their own turf like that situation. Be smart and safe
At first I thought it was bad that she bit him but I didn't realize it was a security guard not a cop and he did not have the legal right to lay a hand on that woman. Free speech my ass. But there was not one single single man who stood up for that woman, and that's just worse.
Big tough guys ?
It was assault. She was moved from one location to another against her will...kidnapping.
She was manhandled (groped)
Once these men are done with their 15 year sentence for kidnapping they can live the lives of registered sex offenders.
They'll be required to notify neighbors of their status.
There was no sexual assault so no requirement to register even if they are convicted of physical assault. They did not even assault her based on her gender, they assaulted her at the direction of the Sheriff because she is a known person who ran for office as a Dem.
NB if you break the law even if told to by a sheriff, YOU HAVE STILL BROKEN THE LAW. SO YOU’RE OK W A WOMAN BEING FORCED OUT OF HER SEAT AND OUT OF A PUBLIC ROOM BY MEN WHO HAVE NO LEGAL RIGHT TO DO SO. GOOD TO KNOW. THANKS FOR REVEALING YOUR LACK OF MORALS.
I have sourced every video that I can to watch from different angles. They did not sexually violate her; no breast, butt or crotch.
BTW, I am a former DV/SA Victim-Witness investigator. I wanted to find even a trace so I could highlight it. What they did was wrong, very wrong, but not in that way.
I have sourced every video that I can to watch from different angles. They did not sexually violate her; no breast, butt or crotch.
BTW, I am a former DV/SA Victim-Witness investigator. I wanted to find even a trace so I could highlight it. What they did was wrong, very wrong, but not in that way.
Yes. So much for free speech. I saw that video. You didn't piss me off being a man. Women have been suppressed for ages. I am for women's rights. Equal pay. This woman should charge those goons with assault!
You're the one who said " I'd be telling them to stop" where I'd be the one physically forcing my way between them. IDGAF about being arrested, I will not tolerate tyranny.
UPDATE: The charges against her have been dropped “in the interest of justice” (she bit one of the brownshirts that assaulted her) and the private security firm has lost their license to operate. I hope she sues them into oblivion. 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻
I thought the same thing..I’m not even saying I’m super brave but I think my fight would’ve kicked in..I was shocked at all the people who just stayed in their seats.
Shared that original clip on FB because I think some in that audience were too shocked to move. They didn't expect THAT to happen.
Well, now we know that WILL happen.
So, think it over, and decide what you're going to do next time. (Not "you" personally, Kelly, I mean the collective you-s on FB).
I live in rural MO. Maybe not the county I'm in now, but the ones in the middle you better believe the same scene will be playing out.
Lotta people excited to finally be able to put uppity ____ (fill in the blank, several answers work) back in their "place".
That is right. What the hell! No one did anything. I wonder if the shock of the moment paralyzed them. I bet one person standing up in her defense would have mobilized others.
I'm not sure but she has spoken of the incident and there is a Go Fund Me for her to help her find a good lawyer. It's already a good amount, higher than their goal.
I 💯 agree. Can I expand on this issue? I attended a protest in my town yesterday. The group was 90% older women. There was NOBODY under 30. Later, I read an online account about the protest. Not surprisingly, it discounted this event as"a bunch of old women with nothing better to do." Helloooo??!!
I think it is good you point this out. It is hard to know what to do when you encounter something you are so unprepared for. We have to prep ourselves for how we will respond in these situations before we find ourselves actually in them.
The audience clapped and cheered and laughed as she was taken out. Both women and men. This is Idaho. You will never get men to stand up for women there. They are co-conspirators.
When citizens attend these gatherings they need to have a plan to prevent this kind of treatment. In this case, someone should have immediately called the police to report an assault. They could also have blocked the doors to prevent them from taking her outside. Anyway, we need to organize.
Agreed, Jess. I saw that video. It was horrifying to watch as she struggled and no men stood up to help. There were a few women who stood up, but they likely would have been hauled off as well. I hope she sues the sh*t out of those 3.
Exactly. In such a situation, guns do not enable defense, but rather prevent it. People assume that there are guns in the crowd and therefore do not even try to help. I apologize, for a European this is completely unacceptable. Helping a lady in trouble is a given and you usually won't die doing it.
I can honestly say had I been there and unidentified goons were doing that I would of been going to jail right beside her for getting right in the middle of it.
No ID No Badge No Compliance
Problem is: that that Idaho jail is full of extremists and the cops are on their side. That's why no one stepped in. They are all on the side of the Naz
Still I'm with you brother, I would step in for her.
Yea definitely in hostile territory, but I don’t think I could’ve just sat there. As an INFP, when something goes against my moral compass, or when the marginalized are attacked, I can’t stand by. My buddy made a great point to me recently,I don’t stand up often, but when I do you people take notice
Thanks @piperformissouri.bsky.social Prompted good convo in our house (filled with men). Consensus: it's not necessary to 'start swingin' to just stand up, which can often defuse and sadly, give the other man/men an out.
Also agreement that even if the woman was MAGA men should still stand between.
I think we need specific guidance on how to respond when those behaving like this are law enforcement. The first man who approached the woman was the Sheriff. The people there knew that. Interfering would be obstruction, and they likely knew that, too. So when it IS the cops...what do we do?
The two thugs absolutely were not, but the first man was the actual Sheriff of the county where that town hall was held. Thankfully, their local Chief of Police is speaking out against this travesty, but it raises chilling questions.
Completely agree. I think that's one of the questions. How many people knew who he was? How many people were influenced by no one else stepping forward? How do we encourage each other to be braver in the face of this kind of tyranny?
I saw a comment from someone, and I wish I could remember who it was, because I want to give them credit.
Men say "not all men."
But in Couer D'Alene... there was not one good man.
Not one stepped up to help her, to protect her, to say "no, this is wrong."
Not one.
So it is all men.
White ladies, no one is coming to save you. You gotta put YOUR bodies in the way, same way you routinely expect Black women to do. Just a couple WHITE women coming to that Idaho doctor’s aid, would have changed the dynamic and broke the bystander effect. THE TIME TO STEP UP IS NOW.
💯 You know what's better than "big male bodies"? A hundred or more bodies of all shapes and sizes. Fostering a culture of bystanderism isn't going to save us, so my belief is that there are no bystanders. If you see something, do something.
This is very true. Don’t be a bystander. Hard not to be bc so often the moment is done before you unfreeze. But now everyone has witnessed this. There will be more. This will become common place. Be ready to intervene
I agree with you totally, but there's also something to be said about carrying a stun gun or a hot shot in your purse with you. I was tear gassed, beaten by cops in the 60s and 70s, and it's time for women to also stand up. I would rather be arrested & fight assault charges & not be beaten by
men.
Came here to say this. My entire adult life I’ve carried a taser for protection and when I saw the video I wondered “what would happen if that was me and I tried to protect myself.” In that crowd specially.
You mean the possibility that that would have escalated And it would have gotten a lot worse, correct? I had that thought myself, but there's a point at which we cannot allow this to happen.
I live in Missouri, I have Maga Neighbors. I get what happened but it's inexcusable.
I think that too many times we wait for someone else (or for someone in authority) to put a stop to incidents like these. But we all need to rise up enmass and take control of the situation as soon as it occurs. If you see someone else stepping up, step up with them. Don't wait.
Amen sister! Last week at protest, we counted 150 people on my side of the street. It was 5/1 female. I’m appreciative of the men that do show up, but you need to do better guys!
We need to protect each other.During covid cops were harassing 4 black men who were talking in front of a high end store. I stopped to ask the cops what were the men doing wrong? I was told that large groups weren’t allowed. I pointed out a group of 10 whites picnicking across the street. Cops left.
Men are dangerous right now, the world is not a safe place for women…women must protect themselves and each other…we cannot depend on men to save us…sorry thats the reality right now
My favorite trope amongst men is that men are needed in society because they protect women. That our ability to have children to build families, to build communities to kin keep, all doesn’t matter as much because men are the ones that protect us.
As terrible as it sounds, I am not surprised.
That is how fascism work.
People stand on the side that they perceive is stronger and winning.
Nobody helped her because she belongs to the losing side.
Anyone who decides to speak up at any meeting MUST have protection - not guns but bodies.
MAGA, so-called, men, are afraid of black men and women. They need special federal protections to feal what? Less fear? Now they're even more terrified. Why on earth would anyone expect any courage from MAGAt men? There are no real men who are MAGA
I saw this and the men just stared. Their wives just stared. It was disgusting. I'm afraid my husband woukd have stood up because I would have stood up. Why are women not protecting women?
While i agree with your statement, we women have to find the strength women have shown throughout history. We are the secret weapons. We can not stay small. We have to stand tall & mighty together. I said it previously, COURAGE IS CONTAGIOUS! We have to show when they attack one, they attack all ✊️
Not just men, everyone needs to stand up! I was appalled when Gov. Janet Mills was bullied and other Governors sat silent. I’m more appalled by this happening & no one moves to help her!!! Get up! Stand up! This is a time to be brave. Together we are powerful!!!
“I was really dumbfounded because he said, ‘Do you want me to pepper spray you?’” she recalled. “That was the first thing he said to me that I remember.”
Witnesses said three unidentified men, not wearing identification, at a Town Hall in Coeur d'Alene Idaho.
Exactly what I was thinking when I watched the video....but I also heard coeur d'alene has had this attitude for years and very racist, my mom and dad were told this when they were thinking of moving there, but finally came to our little oregon coastal town.....
I follow the directive given out by the late Representative John Lewis. "Get in the way".
Don't make it easy. Keep it messy. They don't have the stomach for this.
Yes, yes and yes. My partner and I are hermits but I told him if we or him alone are out in public and see this type of shit he BETTER help the woman. I don't care who or what the reasoning is. I will not be ok with him sitting back while a woman is manhandle by his fellow prostate owners.
Both myself & my husband would not be sitting! My husband wouldn't think twice! I unfortunately was assaulted & my husband wasn't with me. A bunch of men protected me. They got him & threw him to the ground screaming you never put your hands on a woman. NYPD came & they still were holding him down.
She’s basically asking MEN to ACT LIKE FUCKING MEN!!! Stop being little pussy boys and do what you’re always claiming you’d do. I’m disgusted to admit I share a chromosome with these people.
It's because we've never been faced with this before. This is new territory and we have to learn how to deal with it right now on the spot and I think that the majority says fight. The enemy knows our dilemma. They're counting on us to all stand there with question marks in our eyes...
This was my thinking as well! All of us should be putting our bodies in there. Because as I told my youngest my niece, who will protect you when the men are gone? Ladies you are not w/o your defenses. You will not be able to fight. But don't go into it thinking your gonna 1v1 with a dude either.
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"Never be a spectator of unfairness or stupidity. Seek out argument and disputation for their own sake; the grave will supply plenty of time for silence." - Hitchens
https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article300851374.html
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Worth a watch, time for everyone to understand this lesson.
Put the damn phone down and DO SOMETHING. For gods sake you are losing your country America! This woman needed help regardless of what her opinion was and the best anyone could do was film it?! FFS
And yes this is part of the authoritarian hatred-as-philosophy. Nice that so many white women voted them in.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/02/19/heres-why-trump-may-view-andrew-tate-as-an-ally-as-he-reportedly-pressures-romania-to-lift-his-travel-restrictions/
And I hesitate to use the word “ but” here , but can I tell you a story? It’s Short , and a bit generous I hope.
She was assaulted and violated.
“Borrenpohl said that after she declined to leave, Norris turned to the unidentified men and said, “Guys, get her.” “
https://cdapress.com/news/2025/feb/23/update-on-town-hall-chaos-woman-who-was-dragged-out-speaks-police-chief-condemns-security-name-of-security-firm-confirmed/
It looked like everyone was in shock and having the "freeze" response. So glad she is taking legal action.
All men need to get more involved, period. It's their future, too.
This is the only way a minority can rule the people. With violence.
I am a man who is 6' tall 250lbs and am known to step in, however FROM EXPERIENCE, do not fight them on their own turf like that situation. Be smart and safe
Big tough guys ?
She was manhandled (groped)
Once these men are done with their 15 year sentence for kidnapping they can live the lives of registered sex offenders.
They'll be required to notify neighbors of their status.
BTW, I am a former DV/SA Victim-Witness investigator. I wanted to find even a trace so I could highlight it. What they did was wrong, very wrong, but not in that way.
BTW, I am a former DV/SA Victim-Witness investigator. I wanted to find even a trace so I could highlight it. What they did was wrong, very wrong, but not in that way.
In fact, the security guys did not look very happy about the situation themselves.
Well, now we know that WILL happen.
So, think it over, and decide what you're going to do next time. (Not "you" personally, Kelly, I mean the collective you-s on FB).
Lotta people excited to finally be able to put uppity ____ (fill in the blank, several answers work) back in their "place".
Trump's Gestapo.
It's going to get a lot worse.
Please...tell me there's something that can be done.
I would NEVER stay seated for this atrocious behavior
HOPE ITS TAKEN AWAY BY DOGE
https://lamag.com/news/educator-dragged-from-idaho-town-hall-on-orders-of-ex-la-sheriffs-deputy-collecting-150k-in-disability
https://www.learasset.com
U can't believe the cowards that just watched.
Worse, the ones who applauded!
and the “traditional” men,
who believe in protecting women, where were you ?
She’s right that WE NEED EVERYONE TO EXHIBIT COURAGE.
IF YOU HAVE NO COURAGE, stay the hell home.
Get up.
Surround them.
Lock arms.
Demand the citizen be released!
Don't fight.
Go limp if they try to grab you.
No ID No Badge No Compliance
I spent one week with cousins there in the 1970s.
It was the worst week of my young life. Open racism, vile sexism, and admiration of all things violent. And religious nuttery like I'd never seen.
Horrid place.
Still I'm with you brother, I would step in for her.
Also agreement that even if the woman was MAGA men should still stand between.
https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article300851374.html
Men say "not all men."
But in Couer D'Alene... there was not one good man.
Not one stepped up to help her, to protect her, to say "no, this is wrong."
Not one.
So it is all men.
Just cryin'
men.
I live in Missouri, I have Maga Neighbors. I get what happened but it's inexcusable.
I was raised a GENTLEMAN.
I was taught to get IN harm’s way, rather than just LET a Woman be harmed.
That is how fascism work.
People stand on the side that they perceive is stronger and winning.
Nobody helped her because she belongs to the losing side.
Anyone who decides to speak up at any meeting MUST have protection - not guns but bodies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up2HUvGil64
No one can afford to be silent anymore
No one can sit by and watch this happen
And there WILL be more of these jackbooted MAGA thugs trying to silence and intimidate people
It's up to us to protect our community from them
People need to show up to these meeting fully prepared to fight if necessary, or at least obstruct these rent a cops.
Witnesses said three unidentified men, not wearing identification, at a Town Hall in Coeur d'Alene Idaho.
She was clapping when the attack started & laughing throughout. Who is she.
Don't make it easy. Keep it messy. They don't have the stomach for this.
One stick is easy to break, a bundle is not.
COWARDS, ALL OF THEM.
Practically the only people there would need a solid four minutes to rise from their chairs and cross the room.
Generally only the elderly show up for local politics.
Robert Norris: Sheriff,
(208) 446-1300 / [email protected]