Honestly, though, Rian Johnson gave us that with The Last Jedi and Snoke. Pretty sure I involuntarily gasped and "oooooh"'ed when Snoke got smoked. - ThreadSky

anubisthejackal.bsky.social • 63 days ago

Honestly, though, Rian Johnson gave us that with The Last Jedi and Snoke.

Pretty sure I involuntarily gasped and "oooooh"'ed when Snoke got smoked.

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johnniegoat.bsky.social•63 days ago

i was going to say exactly this

to add - then a bunch of grifters lost their collective shit to monitise stupidity/ hate

disney collectively jettisoned their spines

ROS is the only piece of SW film/ TV i have not managed to rewatch. i tried and each time i give up

i like TLJ. flawed, but tried

anubisthejackal.bsky.social•63 days ago

Rise of Skywalker is objectively bad story telling, before you even get to nerd shit like canon and continuity.

Numerous McGuffins, pulled punches, no one dies until the very end, and it just regurgitates a mish mash of recycled plot ideas.

johnniegoat.bsky.social•63 days ago

we all know SW is not treading the boards, doing MacBeth or Hamlet

but watching Oscar Issacs have read his lines was painful.

it maybe a bit of a reach, but i also think Finn's story line was tacitly racist - and how Rose was treated was appalling

i film made in a panic to please online ghouls

chriswintersva.bsky.social•63 days ago

BUT: hyperspace tracking (without a device) and the Holdo Maneuver breaks Star Wars in so many ways that I think it does the universe a disservice. That’s my biggest concern. And then ROS really discombobulated everything.

anubisthejackal.bsky.social•63 days ago

Hyperspace tracking, I believe, exists in one or more now outdated EU projects (I'm certain I've played a game before that had the concept).

And frankly the hyperspace collision thing is something that Lucas et al have weirdly avoided for a long time. I was pleasantly surprised.

chriswintersva.bsky.social•63 days ago

Yeah but obviously is leads to the question of why you just don’t have a hyperspace missile instead of attacking Star Destroyers with snub fighters. And hyperspace tracking makes a rebellion nigh impossible.

anubisthejackal.bsky.social•63 days ago

As for hyperspace collisions ... well, if they obey Einstein's laws on energy and mass, it'd be an extremely expensive, dangerous weapon to USE.

For example: why don't we just end every war with nukes? Well, because it's not quite that easy / simple.

anubisthejackal.bsky.social•63 days ago

(honestly, Holdo's ship couldn't have been traveling faster than light and shear through another ship. At FTL, the collision would have created a small nova and everyone would be dead. Now, you could instead argue that, maybe, given distances, it hadn't actually reached FTL yet)

chriswintersva.bsky.social•63 days ago

In the previous canon it seemed like the jump to hyperspace was a jump to a different kind of space so you wouldn’t actually be in the same physical space as where you were going, even if you were affected by gravity. More like subspace.

anubisthejackal.bsky.social•63 days ago

That's also not necessarily true, because Solo's "Kessel Run" of 12 parsecs or whatever is a measure of DISTANCE, not time.

In the movie Solo, they cleverly explain this by saying "yes, space is lively, so actual travel distances are constantly changing to route around stuff."

anubisthejackal.bsky.social•63 days ago

Hyperspace tracking can be explained as: it was developed at exactly one research facility in secret, and thus, there is limited availability of the tech. I believe games / EU have said as much. Any prototype technology is going to be limited, and not necessarily a war ender.

krayonprince.bsky.social•63 days ago

Star Wars breaks its own internal logic all the time, though.

Mace Windu force-disassembles a bunch of droids and then uses the bolts and screws as projectiles to destroy more droids in the Tartakovsky Clone Wars. Nobody got up in arms saying "well why doesn't he do that all the time?"

imjustluca.bsky.social•62 days ago

People were so pissed off that there wasn't some grand lore payoff to Smoke as if that plot point itself wasn't better than any fan theory.

hedgy-apple.bsky.social•62 days ago

It wouldn’t have mattered anyway, this fanbase would have found a reason to complain anyway

imjustluca.bsky.social•62 days ago

Just noticed that my phone had autocorrected this to "Smoke" instead of "Snoke" lol

Now imagining the Mortal Kombat character in his place and it's a good laugh.

maxpolun.com•63 days ago

TLJ had its problems, but it had really good ideas too. Sad we'll never see where that could have gone.

saintbehelit.bsky.social•63 days ago

TLJ had the unfortunate task of continuing a new trilogy that began with a madlibs rerun of A New Hope. It was overstuffed with fresh material to compensate for the lack thereof in The Force Awakens

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