I'm genuinely surprised @aunz.theconversation.com would publish such a misleading article. This is not 'journalism you can trust' it's propaganda. theconversation.com/australia-co... #auspol #climate - ThreadSky

pollyjhemming.bsky.social • 15 hours ago

I'm genuinely surprised @aunz.theconversation.com would publish such a misleading article. This is not 'journalism you can trust' it's propaganda.
https://theconversation.com/australia-could-become-the-worlds-first-net-zero-exporter-of-fossil-fuels-heres-how-259037
#auspol #climate

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angorafish.bsky.social•14 hours ago

It's entirely consistent with The Conversations's mission. They don't pay for articles, it's just a conversation starter. They platform lots of left field ideas.

pollyjhemming.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Theyre currently fundraising off the idea that they publish 'journalism'.

angorafish.bsky.social•14 hours ago

It's not journalism, it's an opinion blog publisher not a news source, so they're wrong there.

cvanrood.bsky.social•14 hours ago

omg! not @theconversation.com !!!
More than disappointing 😣

deafdoug.bsky.social•13 hours ago

The Conversation is not a bad bloggy thing. Green steel and the like are good ideas. Continuing to mine coal and gas is a net terrible idea. Bad for the environment and only a trivial economic benefit for the Australian economy when exported. Great news however for gas companies.

mrriddle0.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Net-Zero has always been green washing. Stop burning stuff

pollyjhemming.bsky.social•14 hours ago

This is not journalism and its disingenuous to fundraise off the idea that it is.

pollyjhemming.bsky.social•15 hours ago

Don't worry about exporting fossil fuels! You just export more not-fossil fuels and the emissions disappear like magic. It's very good maths and extremely good real science. #auspol #climate

pollyjhemming.bsky.social•14 hours ago

A convenient article to come out during the Bonn UN climate conference where Australia thinks its going to be awarded COP31 hosting rights. #auspol #climate

ajsadauskas.bsky.social•14 hours ago

I'm planning a diet.

It involves subtracting the weight of the salad I eat from the weight of the chocolate I eat.

Because the salad displaces chocolate I otherwise would've eaten.

If, some days, I eat more salad than chocolate, then I will claim I have actually eaten net negative chocolate.

pollyjhemming.bsky.social•14 hours ago

This is sound maths and good nutritional practice. Im getting hammered on Jack Daniels right now but I'm going to drink some milk to cancel it right out and soon I will be net sober.

comradedogboy.bsky.social•2 hours ago

Great call. I’m using that analogy with my Economics classes. Cheers!

timlagor.bsky.social•13 hours ago

ricgrud.bsky.social•13 hours ago

I have based my lifestyle on this method 😀

mygiddyaunt.bsky.social•14 hours ago

What do call "salad"? Lettuce and alfalfa or carrots, beetroot, cabbage with tofu, chicken, etc?
And is yr chocolate light milky stuff like an aero or heavy and dark?
Hmmmm 🤔

murranji.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Is the argument actually that the atmosphere works like a balance sheet?

rickicoughlan.bsky.social•14 hours ago

If I buy enough products on special at the supermarket this week, I'll get rich!

pollyjhemming.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Yes. That is also good science and good economics.

rickicoughlan.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Especially if I use my credit card to achieve this wealth 🫠

davidpenington.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Green Iron & Green anmonia don't involve removing any CO2 from the atmosphere,so this "offsetting" just provides an excuse for someone emittig more CO2 and warming the planet more.
The baseline has to be processes that don't produce CO2. Otherwise you lock in ever increasing global warming.

8t3v3n.bsky.social•13 hours ago

Some fantastic words. Salad is nice and healthy too, so word salad must be good, right?

pixeljabberwocky.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Love how they just shove green 8nfront of stuff like look the word that means it's good. Like we haven't been force-fed this kind of language by marketing groups all our lives. All they fool is themselves.

bobcoder.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Ah, "green". A very convenient adjective for any fossil-fuel producer to splash about. Just produce a minimal qty of hydrogen via electrolysis as window-dressing, then generate the bulk from LNG, etc. The final product is colourless so who could discern if it started out as green or otherwise?

beeebri.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Yeah not the first time I have seen things like this , unfortunately academics can still have agendas and get paid off.

stuart8.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Does this mean that we need to import more oil to balance our exports of coal & gas? Wouldn't that count as net zero?

nondescriptive.bsky.social•14 hours ago

The economist's mentality has ruined so many of our most brilliant minds

dejantesicnaarm.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Unsurprisingly, the lead author does appear to be an economist, ahem, an "environmental economist".

pollyjhemming.bsky.social•13 hours ago

And also recently employed by federal govt and appointed to NSW govtnet zero commission and QLD govt 'clean economy panel. Some nice fossil fuel projects planned in those states.

quolltracks.bsky.social•14 hours ago

As always the answer is creative accounting, wishful thinking and pixie dust. Lots of pixie dust.

john-in-geraldton.bsky.social•14 hours ago

And you're advertising it!

pollyjhemming.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Yeah I am. Because its bad enough that it needs to be called out as misleading.

john-in-geraldton.bsky.social•14 hours ago

I understand, but IMHO, lots of people would simply read the very large headline and think "that's good"!

johnlarooy.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Now I have to read the article to see if it's just about importing an equal quantity of fossil fuels as they export...

rickicoughlan.bsky.social•14 hours ago

It's a comedy piece . . .

picowlo.bsky.social•14 hours ago

It's like saying no-one got shot producing these guns....

dwjperry.bsky.social•14 hours ago

real murder offsets vibe in that one...

livesarah.bsky.social•12 hours ago

The Conversation has been going downhill for years, accumulating some real shockers. Thanks for the reminder to cancel my monthly donation!

davidlunt.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Net Zero is a con - how can we negate our emissions responsibility by selling our fossil fuels to others. It’s just wrong. Can we bring back a Carbon price - which WAS working under the Gillard government. #auspol

ivalaine.bsky.social•14 hours ago

Astounding

robvirtue.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Easy! Just ignore Scope 3. Maybe Scope 2 as well. And Scope 1.

docbaty.bsky.social•15 hours ago

Australia: leading the way in creative carbon accounting.

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