And of course condemn the playing down of US and Israeli violations of international law.
But skipping over how destabilising actions of the Khamenei regime that devastated 100 000s of lives from Aleppo to Taiz have also hollowed out those norms won't help build a stable order either
Any even cursory examination of Iranian actions in Syria, Lebanon and Yemen would provide awareness of the devastating carnage enabled by the IRGC's bid for regional supremacy
But that is precisely why we have international law governing military action. It is designed to ensure that the rules are the same, irrespective of which side does it.
Of course, far more honoured in theory than in practice.
I heard one of the things they've been able to do with mRNA research in the last few years is inoculate human beings against the agonizing death that used to accompany accepting two or three (or even four) things being bad at the same time, in differing or sometimes equal amounts.
a good point. but a better point is that israel must be stopped. otherwise you cant convince those who were harmed by usa and israel to not hate them or to not want them to be beaten by their “bad guy” enemies.
Despite the polarisation going on in the public row over Iran/Israel/USA dumpster fire, there are no black and white hats in this. Just a bunch of truly dreadful leaders on all sides dragging their people into hell to serve those leaders' agendas. People who mostly want nothing to do with any of it.
No one's saying Iran's good, but, they didn't start this war, Israel did (and it's the 6th they've started in 3 years).
They attacked Iran because they might have nukes. Not because they do have them, or because they threatened to use them, just that they might have them.
I don't have a bone in this fight (besides feeling sorry for the people living under buffoon leaders), but the Iranian regime has been known to sponsor and support terrorist groups in the region. So yes, officially "they didn't start this war", nor any other conflict.
Again, Iran's not good, but, that has nothing to do with what's happening. The main concern has been Iran capabilities of having nuclear weapons. Not even having the weapons, just possibly being able to get them.
At least, that's what the US, UK and Israel seem to claim.
It's a bit simplistic to view it in isolation though, rather than in the context of ALL the conflicts taking place in the region (not even a war, mind you). And then you further reduce the discussion by labelling all parties as terrorists. I'm going to check out of this internet-debate now.
Palestine (although, it started before 2023, people seem think it started then), Yemen, Syria, Iran, Lebanon, and I can't remember the 6th. Saw a list the other day though, shall see if I can find it.
A well organized incursion where hundreds of civilians were killed, raped and abducted triggered the war that followed. Was Netanyahu awful before that and why? What was the scale of his crime before he had to declare war? Was there a peaceful way to handle the situation he was subjected with?
In fact, awful people are more likely to win because they’re far more driven than normal people. And once decency ceases to be a thing, there’s nothing to stop them. It’s going to get a lot worse as every other grifting criminal jumps on the bandwagon.
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But skipping over how destabilising actions of the Khamenei regime that devastated 100 000s of lives from Aleppo to Taiz have also hollowed out those norms won't help build a stable order either
There is simply no moral high ground for Britain to take here.
And by excusing Israel's aggression we undermine Ukraine's defence against Russia.
But that is precisely why we have international law governing military action. It is designed to ensure that the rules are the same, irrespective of which side does it.
Of course, far more honoured in theory than in practice.
https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2025/06/23/fierce-hardliners-are-grabbing-power-in-iran
They attacked Iran because they might have nukes. Not because they do have them, or because they threatened to use them, just that they might have them.
I don't have a bone in this fight (besides feeling sorry for the people living under buffoon leaders), but the Iranian regime has been known to sponsor and support terrorist groups in the region. So yes, officially "they didn't start this war", nor any other conflict.
At least, that's what the US, UK and Israel seem to claim.
Lebanon and Yemen attacked Israel immediately in support of Hamas on 7-8 October 2023.
Israel's unprovoked attack was on Syria (post-Assad); the somewhat-provoked was Iran, with all their proxy wars finally coming home.
It’s as if the IDF are addicted to killing civilians irrespective of their nationality. That’s the sort of behaviour associated with terrorists!