Disco Elysium has a lot of great, cutting stuff to say about various ideologies but the thing that cut deepest for me is that internalizing communist thought largely just makes you miserable “Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.” - ThreadSky

antlervel.vet • 106 days ago

Disco Elysium has a lot of great, cutting stuff to say about various ideologies but the thing that cut deepest for me is that internalizing communist thought largely just makes you miserable

“Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.”

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I feel like Catch 22 is one of the most obviously leftist books just bc the protagonist is a smart guy who understands the insanity around him in perfect clarity, but nobody takes him seriously because it's also turned him into a miserable, high-strung neurotic

And what's more leftist than that

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antlervel.vet•106 days ago

Importantly it never says communism is bad or stupid. It merely says that the child-eating billionaires who rule the world will never ever ever ever let you build it and that keeping it once you have it is even harder than building it

squishy276.bsky.social•106 days ago

Reminds me of my favorite line "Yes — you're ready to start building communism again. You've built it before, they've built it before. Hasn't really worked out yet, but neither has love — should we just stop building love, too?"

ingridblythe.bsky.social•106 days ago

The heartbreak inherent in the system.

pascalenyby.bsky.social•106 days ago

Catch-22 was legit my favorite book in high school. It reached a few extra levels

valiantamm.bsky.social•106 days ago

Also makes me think about how the ending of that game is kind of about what happens if you allow that to separate you from other people; separate you from working together to change things. I worry I spend too much time making myself miserable and not enough taking action alone or with others.

himboblacksmith.bsky.social•106 days ago

well, it's that but there's also this bit.

There is misery, but also hope. The really *miserable* ideology to follow is Fascism, the dialogue options cause you to take morale damage because fascism diminishes you as a human.

antlervel.vet•106 days ago

I know, I’ve played the game

shyfaerieknight.bsky.social•106 days ago

reminds me of the kid volunteered to fight the facists in spain and wrote "even the olives are bleeding" and then got cut in half by a machine gun later that day

jarona7.bsky.social•106 days ago

100% this - DE is brilliant in its incisiveness, but its conclusions are all so nihilistic - it doesn't give you anything to hold on to, emotionally or ideologically - except Kim I guess

antlervel.vet•106 days ago

For me the lesson was that ideology alone can’t and won’t save you — you need people

jarona7.bsky.social•106 days ago

I can see that :) the human stories less tainted by ideology - the Old Lady in the village, Mañana, Cuno's poor dad, do have something incredibly real to them.

tomsydi.bsky.social•106 days ago

Even better when you know that the majority of the creators felt that way as well.

serisothikos.bsky.social•106 days ago

I talked to my dad once about this and I’m like… once you realize how severely the cards are stacked against any sort of leftism it’s impossible to feel fully comfortable ever again

subotaii.bsky.social•106 days ago

"He is starting to suspect Kras Mazov *fucked him over* personally with his socio-economic theory" = Oh you understood ALL the big brained-things ? Too bad, it will just make you miserable instead of solving any of anyone's problems

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