Another thing to consider about people of unfortunate legal status. They buy eggs, and milk, and cars, and gas. They work and labor in jobs that are oftentimes undesirable. They commit crimes in far lower rates than those who are more comfortable. They are the backbone or our nation.
What about the geopolitical power grab of international super power nations? Let's say for example a country wants the downfall of America. Doesn't bypassing any legal precautions for people to come here pose a national security risk for espionage? At the very least?
I’m waiting for all the NAGA boo hoo hoos when they can’t buy a fresh vegetable or a pieces of fruit, when they can’t get a clean hotel room or a new roof on their home. I could go on but you get the point.
Fernand Raynaud, french comedian: "There was an immigrant in my village. We all mistreated him because he was dark-skinned and we told him not to come to our country to eat our bread. We insisted so much that one day he left. Since then we have not eaten bread. He was the baker.
Are you suggesting a young man who went to school on an athletic scholarship did not have an opportunity?
I am a firm believer in a meritocracy but it will never happen. Capitalism is a zero-sum game.
I used to work with someone that happened to. The IRS contacted him and wanted him to explain why he didn’t claim taxes for his job in Florida. He had never been to Florida much less work there. They said he either needs to fix it or pay those taxes. So he had to go to Florida to sort it out.
If they wanted to stop illegal immigration, they'd go after employers. They don't want to stop illegal immigration, they want to win elections and distract people from all the other shit they're doing.
1 Distraction Politics. All Countries do it. Like, go to war to distract from a bigger issue at home.
2 Lynch Mob Politics. Trump did it to stir up and unite maga into a frenzy over a make believe.
While this is true, the better question is how this came to be an election issue? It coincides with Russia's takeover of social media to convince Americans that real enemy is other Americans (rather than Russia, Iran, north korea). This is a false narrative, like so many others on both sides.
Do they not remember that Reagan, their idol, gave amnesty to 3 million immigrants back in 1986?
That's a much better plan than to push these hardworking people from the country. Why do they feel they need to do this? These are good people that work and contribute to society.
everyone knows the racist morons on the right are the problem. but no one has a fucking spine to stand up to narcissim equivalent to Stage IV lung cancer.
I, too, am confused at what the issue is. It seems that there is a real issue in border counties suddenly having to deal with a whole bunch of people showing up who aren't allowed to work but who really do want to work and make life better for themselves. These are risk-taking people...
One thing people who live in the US conveniently forget is that our country's history of interfering in the business of other nations led to the instability and chaos many countries are currently experiencing, which drives people living there to flee in search of a better life.
The GOP has been running, for years, the lie that undocumented immigrants are bad. Because they’re here illegally, people’s minds go to “criminals” despite the fact that all they did was cross the border. That’s it. Then the GOP started running with “they’re stealing your jobs and hiking up rent”
Did you ever figure out why these people are poor? It’s because they allow corruption in their own countries & they are not willing to fight like our ancestors did to free themselves and guarantee their own rights. Freedom is not free. They’ll have to fight for their rights just like our ancestors.
If people could just grasp this simple concept that people are not a threat simply because of their appearance or beliefs, the world would be SO much more wonderful.
Every presidential term deports criminal undocumented immigrants. There are still 1.5 million that are slatted to be deported. Watch the orange guy to complete this task like every term and claim victory.
what people need to realize is the electorate decided with the GOP on immigration. dems got their ass handed to them on nov 5 in regards to immigration.
In the Socialist Republic of the UK, all illegal immigrants receive tax-payer funded accommodation, dental care, medical care, education, and subsistence. If they are convicted of a crime, they cry "foul", and invoke their "human rights".
Yep, the government has not done anything for decades because it’s cheap labor with no benefits and a win win for employers and the economy. We’re NOT PLANTING in spring. Trump’s tariffs last time wiped out 21 area farms and we’re not playing his game! Please learn how to grow your vegetables.
Indeed.
They can't claim social security. They can't vote. Buy people like Trump and Musk will convince you that they can. And why shouldn't we trust rich white men with rich parents.
DJT blew up the popular vote and won the electoral by about 60 pts. This means that the vast majority of Americans totally disagree with you. DJT is your president. You’re welcome.
Agreed! The wealth inequality is this country is absolutely disgusting. The top one percent owns 80 % of the money. This is exactly what Marx said would happen, these contradictions, and it has never been worse in human history. These are the whims of late stage capitalism. It is parasitic.
Here, here. They have been great contributors to the American economy and continue to do so. They have become the hands of the American farmers (picking vegetables and produce). The builders hands, helping build homes. Thank you for this post.
Undocumented criminals are fine with you? Obviously not every illegal immigrant is a violent criminal, but some statistically are and can evade arrest easier than citizens due to not being documented.
What parent would not walk thousands of miles to save their child?!! Or anyone to save their lives?!! The cruelty to not give ppl the help and empathy they need! The utter inhumanity is beyond my comprehension.
So, it’s not a problem that tens of thousands come here illegally, breaking our immigration laws, and then are given free housing, free clothes, free food and even gift cards with $100’s of dollars on them? And all paid for by the tax paying citizens? I am not OK with that.
And I want to see all the "white boys" will show up for the immigrants jobs if they are deported. Try working bent over in a field all day harvesting lettuce. I see it every time I drive to Yuma, Somerton and San Luis.
It's conforming to know that all those poor MAGA'mericans will finally be able to get their jobs picking fruit and veggies, construction, landscaping, restaurant kitchens, housecleaning and janitorial companies back... oh, wait.
Finally a sensible and logical rebuttal to one of Trump’s key arguments why he should be elected. But isn’t the wage situation happening under Biden’s time as well?
Since the private prison stocks are way up, I’m starting to suspect they aren’t going to deport them, but imprison them and rent them out as convict labor!
The top 1% in America holds $38.7 trillion in wealth.
The national debt is $ 36 trillion dollars.
There is no debt crisis.
There is just a failure of fair taxation to redistribute the private wealth of plutocrats who grew rich from State sanctioned Corporate Socialism into public hands.
Unfortunately, valid SSNs are forged and sold by opportunists & used by migrants. Even Trump hired undocumented workers. The employers would be notified if the number was invalid. Many people in prison have their numbers used. Did they knowingly benefit or were they victims?
So true! And we need these workers to help make our lives work. But America should also help these other countries build good economies so these immigrants can stay where they really want to be.
Huh? I care very much about illegal immigration and the safety of our neighbors. Laken Riley’s parents would be appalled at the support of illegal immigration and so would 74 millions Americans who voted THEY CARE as well. Shameful.
I've lived with illegal friends my entire life. They mean no harm and are here to work and contribute their fair share. Much like the people already born in the USA.
Not only that, but really, welfare isn't the big generous prize income people think it is either. No thanks, I'd rather be out there busting my hump than accepting the paltry income that the department of public welfare has to offer.
Well said! Most of the people complaining, are the ones who pay zero taxes, due to that stupid tax cut Trump gave to the wealthy and Corporations. There is no way I would ever let another human go hungry, I would go without food myself first!
No. The top 1% loves illegal immigration because they work for 1/3 what the entitled, lazy class will accept. The lazy class would rather accept government handouts than learn to hang drywall, so they want the cheap workers to come in and pull some weight for them.
I have seen hotels full of migrants getting $3500. per month on a debit card, 3 buffet style meals a day, the rooms they are in cost tax payers $180. per night and they are sending bus loads of kids to public schools. That’s not where our tax dollars should be going
I live on a border town. The amount of hard working people I see cross every day just to have a somewhat better life in Mexico is astounding, and a true testament to how immigrants still contribute in a major way to this country.
In my forty plus years of working, it’s mostly been with immigrants. Immigrants of every strip you can imagine. But I have noticed, within the last ten years, the trades have become completely dominated by Hispanics. And the wage scale has actually gone down in that time- so, things have changed.
Exactly! Who is going to do the labor? Work the fields, factory jobs? Better yet, who is going to contribute 100 Billion a year to our economy and collect no benefits? Texas is already seeing the light. Good luck America, we're going to need it.
It's just a way to take the crown of responsibility away from the billionaires. They want to see the poor fight the poor. It's a game for them. They collect your money while you blame someone who is your equal and struggles WITH you. Know your actual enemy.
It's classic authoritarian, fear politics.
Pick minority groups to blame for non existent fears.
Hitler used Jewish people, criminal trump uses whoever his peanut brain conjures.
e.g. Haitians, eating the cats and dogs etc, immigrants destroying the US.
And the sheep bleet in unison.
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Why do you assume Floyd was poor?
I am a firm believer in a meritocracy but it will never happen. Capitalism is a zero-sum game.
Suppose you were expected to pay taxes on income from a job you never worked or even knew about.
2 Lynch Mob Politics. Trump did it to stir up and unite maga into a frenzy over a make believe.
That's a much better plan than to push these hardworking people from the country. Why do they feel they need to do this? These are good people that work and contribute to society.
― Friedrich Hayek
They must be legal residents with a SSN.
Immigrants can get a Taxpayer ID number, but not a SSN, with which they pay taxes.
Thanks for sharing.
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They can't claim social security. They can't vote. Buy people like Trump and Musk will convince you that they can. And why shouldn't we trust rich white men with rich parents.
The NAZInomic Wargame is a continuation of the Military Wargame by other means.
https://www.spectacle.org/1199/wargame.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/nyc-debit-card-program-migrants-ending/
The national debt is $ 36 trillion dollars.
There is no debt crisis.
There is just a failure of fair taxation to redistribute the private wealth of plutocrats who grew rich from State sanctioned Corporate Socialism into public hands.
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/no-evidence-4000-people-are-killed-yearly-by-undocumented-immigrants-2024-09-27/#:~:text=Similarly%2C%20a%202020%20study%20%2C%20opens,citizens%2C%20based%20on%20Texas%20data.
I.E. hundreds of thousands risk their lives crossing the Darien Gap to immigrate to America.
That Darien Gap is horrible landscape to have to cross.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219761221
And I’m paying for it.
Ask them if their children are attending public school.
Ask them where they got their phone.
How they are paying for food and clothing.
And if you don’t follow through and actually go to the source and ask one of them, then you don’t care.
Their kids are mostly US citizens, they were born here.
Show that they get money for any of those things.
Evidence is important if you care about being right.
Go. Ask. Them.
That will clear it up for you.
Take some responsibility and investigate
Back it up or sit down.
Are you actually arguing that they give as good as they get?
Because that’s crazytownz
https://www.modelingforchange.com/borderhistory.html
Pick minority groups to blame for non existent fears.
Hitler used Jewish people, criminal trump uses whoever his peanut brain conjures.
e.g. Haitians, eating the cats and dogs etc, immigrants destroying the US.
And the sheep bleet in unison.